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Tuesday November 25 00:22:35 2003
Re: When US Thanksgiving
Biff wrote:

> This Thursday.

Thanx
J L
Tuesday November 25 00:26:09 2003
Re: Help ID - Family scene?
Kerhop wrote:

> Is this titled "Fear" with Kay Lenz? Who's Mom &
> Daughter?

Yes, thats the correct title. I remember seeing this movie a while ago. They take the familiy hostage in the mountains or something like that.

I *think* it had Sylvester Stallones brother playing the villian in it.
Anubis
Tuesday November 25 00:26:38 2003
Re: Help ID - Family scene?
Brian R wrote:

> That's the one, the immortal Frank Stallone in it as well.

Yeah! What he said!
Anubis
Tuesday November 25 00:55:49 2003
Re: Help ID: tarzan episode/movie?
Jay L wrote:

>
> Title: Blade Master (1984) aka Cave Dwellers, aka Ator
> the Invincible
> Medium: Movie
> Actress: Lisa Foster
>

The woman in Kerhop's image and the pic of Ms. Foster don't seem to sync up.

I'll see if I can locate the other Ator movie that got sliced up on MST3K.
Biff
Tuesday November 25 01:30:23 2003
Re: Help ID: tarzan episode/movie?
Brian R wrote:
> Kerhop, see if you can pick up a
> character name from the scene.

Here are some select quotes that I could make out...

"Thong is free"
"I wonder if it would have been easier going to the aid of my father..."
"a village elder lured you to help us"
"the elder is going to hand you over to the Kahns, I hear they are allied with Thor"
"Ravani is being slowly poisoned"
Kerhop
Tuesday November 25 01:40:42 2003
Re: Help ID: tarzan episode/movie?
Kerhop wrote:

> "Thong is free"

Chen Wong played "Thong"
J L
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0938985/
Tuesday November 25 01:40:55 2003
Brent Smith entries
While trying to index Brians tapes, I've come across a lot of entries that just have the actress name, a vague "bound and gagged" description, and citing Brent Smith's tape index as the source.

What's the deal with these? Did people just look up the names on the list and added the entries without seeing them? There are about 50-60 of them.


If they are on compilation tapes that are being sold, then someone has had to have seen the scenes to be able to finish these entries.

Might be a good idea to start going through them and updating them. The way they are now isn't very helpful.
Most of them look like the following:

Record number: 5368
Title: All My Children
Medium: Soap Opera
Actress: Kathleen Dezina
Description: Reference: Brent Smith's tape indexes. Most of the scenes on these videos are of the 'bound and gagged' variety, but let the renter/taper beware.
Anubis
Tuesday November 25 01:54:34 2003
A new bunch of corrections
Here I'm again.

Entry #116 - Our family honor: "Hostage" (1.6)
Entry #736 - When the whistle blows: "Beauty pageant (1.6)
Entry #895 - Wiseguy: "Witness prosecution for the archangel Lucifer" (4.5)
Entry #1342 - Taggart: "Berserker" (1.39)
Entry #1453 - VR Troopers: "Front page" (1.17)
Entry #1521 - One day at a time: "Farewell my suite" (6.5)
Entry #2540 - Something is outthere: "A hearse of another color" (1.7)
Entry #2767 - The priory: Episode 1.9 (no title)
Entry #3580 - Superboy: "Hollywood" (1.24)
Entry #3783 - McClain's law: "Portrait of a playmate" (1.6)
Entry #3902 - Soap: "Episode 36" (2.11). I think it continues in the next episode.
Entry #3986 - Whirlybirds: "Rita Ames is missing" (3.23). No description for it

Almost finished. See you soon
Dean1

dean1
Tuesday November 25 02:00:08 2003
Re: Anubis
"While trying to index Brians tapes, I've come across a lot of entries that just have the actress name, a vague "bound and gagged" description, and citing Brent Smith's tape index as the source."

"What's the deal with these? Did people just look up the names on the list and added the entries without seeing them? There are about 50-60 of them."


Hit Here- Scroll Down To Monday September 29 20:40:20 2003 Re: What irks me: Brian R

As for people still doing it,
I'm trying to keep on top of that.
Jay L
Tuesday November 25 02:05:50 2003
Re: Help ID: tarzan episode/movie?
J L wrote:
> Kerhop wrote:
> > "Thong is free"
> Chen Wong played "Thong"

The only other movie that IMDB shows Chen Wong as being cast in is Miniere del Kilimangiaro, Le (1987). Based on earlier posts and this new info with Chen Wong this might be it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086972/
Blade Master, The (1984)
Also Known As:
Ator l'invincibile 2 (1984) (Italy)
Ator the Invincible (1984)
Ator, the Blade Master (1984)
Cave Dwellers (1984) (USA: TV title)
Return, The (1984)

The actress being Lisa Foster, here's a IMDB photo of her.
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/hh/0287939/HH/0287939/lisafoster.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Foster,%20Lisa
Tuesday November 25 02:17:31 2003
Re: Help ID - Family scene?
Jay L wrote:
> Fear (1988) aka Honor Betrayed
> For Mom?:
> Kay Lenz aka Kay Ann Kemper
> For Daughter?:
> Zoe Trilling aka Geri Betzler

Others say the same, I'd say a new database entry is in order for this. As for the description, others have put it nicely and (at least from BrianR's compilation tape) the caps I posted earlier is basically all there is to the scene though there's a brief close-up of the adult's bound wrists.
Kerhop
Tuesday November 25 02:24:50 2003
Re: Anubis
Jay L wrote:

> Monday September 29 20:40:20
> 2003 Re: What irks me: Brian R

Okay, believed I'd posted earlier about this & gotten assist. But can't find?

David had this site that listed Titles & Actress from sure Brent Tapes?
Also borrowed a Bizarre Magazine article from a fella that was an early Didcapper, his lists.
I should have copied date/issue of that one whilst had it.

Ran them in, then went out hunting them to improve descriptions. TV Shows we've had to wait on. Know it going slow.

Realise fellas irritated about this, but it's ongoing and eventual we'll sort all of them.
Jay L
Tuesday November 25 02:45:12 2003
Re: Anubis
"If they are on compilation tapes that are being sold, then someone has had to have seen the scenes"

Yes, they were.
Haven't seen David post here in awhile,
as he would know.

This site as I recall it, had pages set up as Tapes:
(Roughly)
Tape: Whatnot?
Title [What?]....Actress [Whom?]


So if ever to find that site again, and someone whom bought the tape? We'd be able to sort those very quickly.
Jay
Tuesday November 25 03:07:59 2003
Re: A new bunch of corrections
dean1 wrote:

Entry #116
Entry #736
Entry #895
Entry #1342
Entry #1453
Entry #1521
Entry #2540
Entry #2767
Entry #3580
Entry #3783
Entry #3986
________________

Got them, good effort my friend.
Thanx for the assist here.
Jay
Tuesday November 25 03:28:38 2003
Re: Help ID: tarzan episode/movie?
>
Based on
> earlier posts and this new info with Chen Wong this might
> be it.
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086972/
> Blade Master, The (1984)
> Also Known As:
> Ator l'invincibile 2 (1984) (Italy)
> Ator the Invincible (1984)
> Ator, the Blade Master (1984)
> Cave Dwellers (1984) (USA: TV title)
> Return, The (1984)
>
> The actress being Lisa Foster, here's a IMDB photo of
> her.
>

Well, I didn't think it was her earlier ... but it appears that CAVE DWELLERS was the only Ator film used by the MSTies, and I know that's where I saw the movie and this actor in this costume. I think Foster's IMDb pic might be relatively recent ... and that's what threw me off ... as the movie was made about twenty years ago.

Since the actor in Kerhop's image isn't Asian, I don't think it's Chen Wong.
Biff
Tuesday November 25 03:40:52 2003
Re: Help ID: tarzan episode/movie?
"CAVE DWELLERS was the only Ator film used by the MSTies"

Great, thanx

"I think Foster's IMDb pic might be relatively recent ... and that's what threw me off ... as the movie was made about twenty years ago."

Kerhop photo

Cave Dweller Site Photo

"Since the actor in Kerhop's image isn't Asian, I don't think it's Chen Wong."

Chen Wong played character "Thong",
Was going by "Thong is free" comment in Kerhop's post.
Jay L
Tuesday November 25 04:00:55 2003
Re: Help ID: tarzan episode/movie?
> Kerhop photo

One of the cheeky reviewers snarking on CaveDwellers claimed Lisa was wearing a hubcap on her chest.
Agree looks like it in Kerhop's photo
Jay L
Tuesday November 25 10:35:50 2003
Re: Help ID: tarzan episode/movie?
Jay L wrote:
> "Since the actor in Kerhop's image isn't Asian, I don't
> think it's Chen Wong."
> Chen Wong played character "Thong",
> Was going by "Thong is free" comment in Kerhop's post.

Correct, the guy on the left side of the caps is the one that says the "Thong is free" comment which would suggest it's none of the on-screen characters.

Kerhop
Tuesday November 25 11:54:54 2003
Help ID: Bonanza episode?

Not seeing this description in the database for any of the current Bonanza entries, the three of them are being kept in a wood shed. Some sheriff folks come by later to check on them (thus the reason why they are all standing outside the wood shed in the third cap).
Kerhop
Tuesday November 25 12:04:48 2003
Help ID: Batman Episode?

Not finding any of the existing Batman episode descriptions in the database matching this one. The lady behind Robin mentions that she's positive her father will bring the ransom money but is unsure if King Tut will release her.
Kerhop
Tuesday November 25 12:11:23 2003
Help ID: 21 Jump Street episode?


Record number: 9342 Title: 21 Jump Street Medium: TV Series Actress: Holly Robinson, Kamala Lopez Description: Episode: Unknown One lady is tied to a chair in front of a class with a blindfold and her upper body wrapped in rope. The other lady has her wrists bound behind her and is cleave gagged, however none of her binds are visible due to only upper-body shots with the camera.
Kerhop
Tuesday November 25 12:19:13 2003
Mutant X
Record number: 9304

Title: Mutant X
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Unknown

Description: Episode: "Shadows Of Darkness" (3.6)

Bound and red-cloth cleave-gagged.
________________________________________________

The actress is Nancy Palk.
Tuesday November 25 12:53:54 2003
Mill of the Stone Women
Record number: 142

Title: Mill of the Stone Women (1960)
Medium: Movie
Actress: Scilla Gabel, Liana Orfei, Dany Carrel

Description: A mad scientist is working on the elixir of life, which requires draining the blood from young
women. Two are shown strapped to medical tables, white cloth over the mouth gags. Another is tied to a chair
and similarly gagged.

English language version of the movie was released in 1963.
___________________________________________

According to the link, there are other titles also:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3364349979&category=1417
Tuesday November 25 13:51:40 2003
Re:[9304] Mutant X
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Bound and red-cloth cleave-gagged.

Able to provide a better description of how bound?

"Nancy Palk"- Got it. Thanx
Jay L
Tuesday November 25 15:00:04 2003
Re: Help ID: tarzan episode/movie?
Jay L wrote:

> "Since the actor in Kerhop's image isn't Asian, I don't
> think it's Chen Wong."
> Chen Wong played character "Thong",
> Was going by "Thong is free" comment in Kerhop's post.
>

Meaning you also thought she wasn't the actor we're trying to ID ... but instead played another character? My memory's hazy, but I seem to recall the Thong character in addition to the female lead.

I think we've got a winner with Foster.
Biff
Tuesday November 25 16:33:15 2003
Unter der Sonne Afrikas
Peter de K wrote:

> I find it annoying that I have failed so far,
> after all, there are only 9 episodes.

Wrong! A more careful search revealed that there are indeed 12 - I hope I have now turned every stone, and no more eps keep coming up.

Air sched run through translator back into German.

Episode: "Die Beseitigung"
"Linda beschließt, einen Mann zu verpflichten, um es zu töten, denn sie trägt das durch ihren Krebs verursachte Leiden nicht mehr."

Was this the episode in question? It's episode 11 "Das Leben geht weiter".

Linda (Linda Batista) hires two killers for herself because she is suffering from a fatal disease.

Can't find the actress pic on Anubis' site any more. Trying to link to one of Linda:

<a href="http://www.cinema.msn.de/iimages/0,,227397-248-360-jar-ex,00.jpg"> <b>Linda Batista Photo </b></a>




Peter de K
Tuesday November 25 16:36:53 2003
Linda Photo
Giving another try

Linda Batista Photo

In case it doesn't work you can always copy and paste the link.
Peter de K
Tuesday November 25 16:39:19 2003
Re: Biff Post
"Meaning you also thought she wasn't the actor we're trying to ID ... but instead played another character? My memory's hazy,"

No, you misunderstanding.

I'll run through the working notes for you, it'll make sense then.

Brian asked:
"Kerhop, see if you can pick up a character name from the scene."

Kerhop replied:
"Here are some select quotes that I could make out...
"Thong is free"
"I wonder if it would have been easier going to the aid of my father..."
"a village elder lured you to help us"
"the elder is going to hand you over to the Kahns, I hear they are allied with Thor"
"Ravani is being slowly poisoned"

___________

Okay, re: "Thong is free"
I noticed that there a character Thong in the Cave Dwellers IMDB entry so posted that.

re: "Khans"
Some of those snarky reviewers had mentioned "a Ghengis Khan wannabe" in Cave Dwellers, but found nothing definite.

re: "Ravani"
Yet to find anything on that, where was at till,

"I think we've got a winner with Foster."

Say this one sorted now, thanx for the assist.
Jay L
Tuesday November 25 17:25:52 2003
Re: Unter der Sonne Afrikas
Peter de K wrote:

> Was this the episode in question? It's episode 11
> "Das Leben geht weiter".

From that site descript, doesn't appear so.
Nor for these:

Unter der Sonne Afrikas: Wettlauf mit dem Tod
Unter der Sonne Afrikas: Feuer der Leidenschaft
Unter der Sonne Afrikas (1)
Unter der Sonne Afrikas (3)
Unter der Sonne Afrikas: Verloren in der Wildnis
Unter der Sonne Afrikas (2)
Unter der Sonne Afrikas: Das Leben geht weiter
Unter der Sonne Afrikas: Eine zweite Chance
Unter der Sonne Afrikas: Das Geheimnis des alten Löwen
Unter der Sonne Afrikas: Schreie der Savanne
Unter der Sonne Afrikas: Der Fluch der heiligen Grotte
Unter der Sonne Afrikas: Lockende Sünde
______________

Wasn't able to bring up descripts for these two:

Unter der Sonne Afrikas: Mit den Augen der Liebe
Unter der Sonne Afrikas: Der Baum der Träume

I'll have to search on them,

Once again, thanx Peter, appreciated.
Jay
Tuesday November 25 19:16:13 2003
Herr Universum
Present entry:

Record number: 2106
Title: Stay Hungry (1976) aka Mister Universum aka Herr Universum
Medium: Movie
Actress: Brandy Wilde

Suggestion:

Record number: 2106
Title: Stay Hungry (1976) aka Mister Universum
Medium: Movie
Actress: Brandy Wilde

Reason:

Stay Hungry (1976) is the DB entry.
Mister Universum is what the movie was called in Rob's alerts where I found it.
In RTL's program (the German TV station that aired the film) it was called Mister Universum.
In Htf's site that have caps from it (a German site) it is called Mister Universum.

Mister is English, Herr German. Yes, but "Mister Universum" is the winning title of a bodybuilder contest (Mister Universe). Most Germans would know, if asked, what "Mister Universum" is. "Herr Universum" they would not, because the term does not exist.
Per
Tuesday November 25 19:18:08 2003
Re: Herr Universum
Sorry, I meant "Stay Hungry (1976) is the IMDb entry.
Per
Tuesday November 25 19:20:35 2003
Re: [2106]- Herr Universum
Per wrote:

> "Herr
> Universum" they would not, because the term does not exist.

Okay, I'll edit it out then.
Thanx
Jay
Tuesday November 25 19:55:48 2003
Re: Unter der Sonne Afrikas
Peter de K wrote:

> Episode: "Die Beseitigung"

Heck, my search brings up nothing for this ep, nor #10, nor #12.
Any chance could post those summaries up?
Thanx
Jay
Tuesday November 25 20:27:25 2003
Re: Help ID: Batman Episode?
Kerhop wrote:

> Not finding any of the existing Batman episode
> descriptions in the database matching this one. The lady
> behind Robin mentions that she's positive her father will
> bring the ransom money but is unsure if King Tut will release her.

I don't remember exactly how I know this, but the woman is Lee Meriwhether (sp?), who was in the Batman big screen movie.

Scott Glenn, T.M.K.
Tuesday November 25 20:55:59 2003
Re: Help ID: Batman Episode?
Scott Glenn, T.M.K. wrote:

>
> I don't remember exactly how I know this, but the woman
> is Lee Meriwhether (sp?), who was in the Batman big
> screen movie.
>

Not definitive proof ... but here's what in the IMDb entry for Ms. Meriwether:

"Batman" (1966/II) playing "Lisa" in episode: "Batman's Waterloo" (episode # 2.54) 9 March 1967

"Batman" (1966/II) playing "Lisa" in episode: "King Tut's Coup" (episode # 2.53) 8 March 1967
Biff
Tuesday November 25 21:10:56 2003
Re: Help ID: Batman Episode?
Biff wrote:

> Scott Glenn, T.M.K. wrote:
>
> >
> > I don't remember exactly how I know this, but the
> woman
> > is Lee Meriwhether (sp?), who was in the Batman big
>
> > screen movie.
> >
>
> Not definitive proof ... but here's what in the IMDb
> entry for Ms. Meriwether:
>
> "Batman" (1966/II) playing "Lisa" in
> episode: "Batman's Waterloo" (episode # 2.54) 9
> March 1967
>
> "Batman" (1966/II) playing "Lisa" in
> episode: "King Tut's Coup" (episode # 2.53) 8 March 1967

It's the second one, the second of the two parter ("Batman's Waterloo"...the show was titled that because the cliffhanger was that they put him in a coffin in a pool to drown, but fortunately, he could hold his breath for 58 straight hours or something).

That's the episode those caps are of.

Scott ? Glenn, Esq.
Tuesday November 25 21:27:30 2003
Re: Biff Post
Jay L wrote:

> "Meaning you also thought she wasn't the actor we're
> trying to ID ... but instead played another character? My
> memory's hazy,"
> No, you misunderstanding.
>

I was trying to determine whether you thought that Chen Wong might be the woman in the picture ... I didn't think you did, but wasn't completely certain, so I asked.

You were just posting the info on "Thong" as a reference point for determining the movie and the actor in question, right?

If so, I think we're straight on this.

> "I think we've got a winner with Foster."
>
> Say this one sorted now, thanx for the assist.
>

I think this one's in the can.
Biff
Tuesday November 25 21:31:20 2003
Re: [2106]- Herr Universum
Jay wrote:

> Per wrote:
>
> > "Herr
> > Universum" they would not, because the term
> does not exist.
>
> Okay, I'll edit it out then.
> Thanx
>

I'm going to put a note in the description to avoid confusion ... that was my only intent both in originally adding "(German title)" in the Title field and suggesting the use of "Herr".

I think that'll do the trick and satisfy all concerned ... make sense?
Biff
Tuesday November 25 23:17:26 2003
Re: [142]- Mill of the Stone Women
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> there are other titles also:

Sorted now,
thanx for the assist here
Jay
Tuesday November 25 23:21:50 2003
Re: Biff Post
"You were just posting the info on "Thong" as a reference point for determining the movie and the actor in question, right?
If so, I think we're straight on this."


Correct, we straight.
Jay
Tuesday November 25 23:24:26 2003
Re: [2106]- Herr Universum
"I'm going to put a note in the description to avoid confusion ... that was my only intent both in originally adding "(German title)" in the Title field and suggesting the use of "Herr".
I think that'll do the trick and satisfy all concerned ... make sense?"


Sounds a plan
Jay

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