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Wednesday May 18 00:14:13 2011
ncis
Well after reading all, i'm actual wish that i was right better than to not have scene then a couple of crappy scene's like that.
shootbinladen
Wednesday May 18 01:47:24 2011
Re: ncis
MagickRat wrote:

> MY handle is none of YOUR business...

That is absolutely untrue. EVERYTHING posted to this site
is my business. I will not allow certain handles to be
used. I also will not allow people to spoof other users.

The Moderator
Wednesday May 18 01:48:41 2011
Re: Smallville
This post was deleted.

Poster: Ch
Reason: I just said not to. That doesn't mean, "quick get in a some commentary and bring back on topic."
The Moderator
Wednesday May 18 01:49:35 2011
Re: charlie's angels preview vid
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Question: Are the merits of the scene and it's quality or
> why you liked it or disliked it also off topic? Thanks.

Gee, I don't know. What do you think?

The Moderator
Wednesday May 18 05:50:34 2011
Frustration Hall of Fame
Hayden Panettiere
Gagged, but not to see from the camera angle behind her
Nicky
Wednesday May 18 07:26:39 2011
Re: NCIS
>>>> THIS IS NOW THE MOST FRUSTRATING BOUND AND GAGGED >>>>SCENE OF ALL TIME.

Wow. If I didn't know better, I'd swear they did that on purpose.

For once I'm actually glad a particular actress (Cote De Pablo in this case) just doesn't ring my bell, else I'd be as upset as all these other guys.

The Greyman
Wednesday May 18 07:34:13 2011
Bondage Mimes
Anyone know any scenes where an actress acted like they were bound, but really weren't?

I'm remembering the Win Ben Stein's Money scene where the hostess was bound and gagged and replaced, but then hopped out onstage at the end of the show. Her hands were indeed tied behind her back (we saw the rope) and her mouth was of course taped shut, but there were no bonds of any kinda around her legs or feet, and yet she hopped out onstage in a really hysterical way!
http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z418/UploaderDC/Nancy.jpg
Wednesday May 18 07:50:29 2011
Re: NCIS
Yeah, they blew it, but hey, she *has* now joined the ranks!
Wednesday May 18 08:13:07 2011
Re: Frustration missed opportunity Hall of Fame
For many of us the all-time most frustrating failure in the D.I.D. genre is every time (too many to list) Lynda Carter dressed in her hose and red boots was captured, but not bound AND gagged. That failure gave rise to countless bondage models dressing up as Wonder Woman and then being trussed up and gagged.

Wednesday May 18 08:17:44 2011
NCIS Pyrimad re-write
The Gibbs team enters the Barn. Slowly they move forward, they turn a corner, sitting in a chair perfectly still is a woman tied hand and foot with a bag over her head. Mcgee and Tony start to rush to untie her, Gibbs yells STOP! Gibbs asks Zeva if she is wired. Slowly she nods.
Gibbs asks if it is the hood. She nods no. Gibbs takes a long barn tool and removes the hood, and Zeva remaining perfectly still is seen with a thick black cleave gag. Gibbs asks her to blink in morse code where it is. Ziva blinks three letters G-A-G. Turns out the gag is wired so that as it is removed it triggers an explosive. The team then takes it' time removing the wire and the gag.
The end, why can't these Bastard writers get it right
Wednesday May 18 08:47:33 2011
Re: Frustration missed opportunity Hall of Fame
I for one still can't get over the massive frustration I felt for the movie "Winter's Bone." The setup was golden, Jennifer Lawrence's character get subdued, dragged kicked and screaming into a barn, knocked out, and when she wakes up....nothing. Killed the whole movie for me.
Brian K.
Wednesday May 18 08:50:05 2011
Re: Frustration missed opportunity Hall of Fame
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> For many of us the all-time most frustrating failure in
> the D.I.D. genre is every time ...

The episode of Alias where Jennifer Garner and the really hot chick were captured, the bad guy said 'tie them up', cut to commercial... return--and they are already free. And Garner says something like 'it took us a while to get free after we were secured'. And they had something better to fill the time of that show with?


ss
Wednesday May 18 09:44:59 2011
Re: NCIS Pyrimad re-write
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> The Gibbs team enters the Barn. Slowly they move forward,
> they turn a corner, sitting in a chair perfectly still is
> a woman tied hand and foot with a bag over her head.
> Mcgee and Tony start to rush to untie her, Gibbs yells
> STOP! Gibbs asks Zeva if she is wired. Slowly she nods.
> Gibbs asks if it is the hood. She nods no. Gibbs takes
> a long barn tool and removes the hood, and Zeva remaining
> perfectly still is seen with a thick black cleave gag.
> Gibbs asks her to blink in morse code where it is. Ziva
> blinks three letters G-A-G. Turns out the gag is wired
> so that as it is removed it triggers an explosive. The
> team then takes it' time removing the wire and the gag.
> The end, why can't these Bastard writers get it right


That would be much better. BUT i've you add E.J. to the scene(instead of they find her in te back of a car trunk, the guy took her to the barn and later brings Ziva there).
You get 2 damsels and if you add a hogtie to that (just leave the 2 on a matress or something like that) you'll even get a nice struggling/escape scene. Just make sure they're in the same room and they can undo each others knots. I would even guess that's would possible be the best DID-scene of the year.
Wednesday May 18 09:45:38 2011
Re: NCIS Pyrimad re-write
I would even guess that's would possible be the best DID-scene of the year.

Ow wait and add alot of gagtalk to it.

Wednesday May 18 11:40:35 2011
NCIS Zivapocalypse
Having now seen the episode "Pyramid" *&* had a full night's sleep, I feel qualified to comment.

AAAAAAAAAAARGH!!

Okay... I feel better.

VAN's FiRST LAW of MAiNSTREAM MEDiA DiD-SCENES: It's about the story, not the bondage.

That's my usual response to the question "Why was DiD-scene "X" so gawd-awful BAD??" The plot drives what's happening on the screen. They aren't making bondage porn.

The only defense for the writers, director, and editors of last night's Zivapocalypse is that "Pyramid", the NCIS season finale, was juggling at least a dozen plot threads. They were resolving and teasing so much material we're lucky half the show wasn't in fast-forward. Do I wish they'd traded a few seconds of Gibbs playing in his basement for a decent shot of Ziva bound & gagged and writhing in the dirt? What do you think?

Now... Sam, old buddy, old pal... could you give us an HD screencap of *THE* frame of Ziva before her tape-gag is ripped off? (Of course, it's entirely possible that particular frame won't freeze. We live in hope.)
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.vansfiction.net
Wednesday May 18 11:49:14 2011
Duke Nukem Forever
Have any of you guys been following the news about Duke Nukem Forever? It's been in development for 14(!) years, but it's finally due to be released next month, and certain news that's been released about it leads me to believe that it's worth keeping an eye on.

First of all, previous Duke Nukem games have given us low-res scenes of captive babes, and this one promises to follow a similar storyline. The plot synopsis for the new game is "The Alien invaders are stealing Earth's women, especially the hot ones! And they drank Duke's beer. Time to bring the pain", and graphics today are much better than they were in 1997. So that bodes well.

Second, there's a multiplayer mode in the game that's been causing a lot of controversy. Instead of Capture The Flag, this game has Capture The Babe, where the player has to pick up the other team's babe and sling her over his shoulder. There's also been mention of the fact that occasionally the babe starts freaking out and you have to give her a slap on the ass to calm her down. So, clearly the game is not going for the Political Correctness award; it seems like they're trying to be as controversial as possible, which is probably a good sign.

The developers have also released the following concept art for the Capture The Babe babes. No actual ropes in sight, but they do look pretty hot and helpless to me. I think I'm probably going to have to get a copy of this game in June, not just for the potential DiD scenes but for the chance to FINALLY play Duke Nukem Forever!
http://mmogamesvs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/BabeConcept1a.jpg
Despite
Wednesday May 18 11:54:09 2011
Re: Duke Nukem Forever
I really hope each level involves rescuing hidden babes that was SO fun.
Wednesday May 18 12:23:20 2011
Re: charlie's angels preview vid
The Moderator wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > Question: Are the merits of the scene and it's
> quality or
> > why you liked it or disliked it also off topic?
> Thanks.
> Gee, I don't know. What do you think?

I guess I should have been more clear? You posted that further discussion (regarding merit of the show), regarding the new CA, would be removed. But most were discussing the scene quality and not the shows writing or acting. So when you write something like that it feels, to me, that you are saying stop all discussion of the new CA and the scene, which is exactly what happened, no one posted about it again.

I wanted to post again but i was afraid of going against your request so I didn't. But then I thought it seemed wrong to squelch all posts about a good scene because a few people took the discussion in the wrong direction, so I asked first if it was okay to post. You know, like trying to find out if that scene is in the first episode or not. Does that seem like a dumb conclusion on my part?
Wednesday May 18 13:11:16 2011
Re: Frustration Hall of Fame
Do not get me started!

There should be different categories of "frustration" lol!

1. Those scenes wherein DiD is actually seen gagged but the shot is fleeting or otherwise defective as per examples cited above.

2. Those scenes wherein we get to hear but not see the DiD gagged e.g Eva Pope's infamous "scene" in "The Bill".

3. Those scenes wherein the DiD's predicament is described but not shown e.g Priscilla Lane in "Saboteur".

4. Those scenes wherein we see the aftermath of her having been gagged such as a gag hanging around her neck e.g Kristen Meadows in an episode of "The Fall Guy".

5. Those instances where a good, nay excellent, but brief shot in a cinema film is/was shrunk or lost upon transfer to TV/VHS/DVD because of frame speed difference e.g Nina Blackwood in "Vice Squad".


Kenny
Wednesday May 18 17:15:11 2011
Re: Frustration Hall of Fame
Gagster wrote:

> The litany of directorial incompetence is long and
> pathetic. In addition to this classic, you can add Teri
> Hatcher photographed from the back in the
> "Resurrection" episode of "Lois &
> Clark

The one where she was tied up and (presumably) cleave gagged with Booger from Revenge of the Nerds (who, of course, got a couple of lingering closeups)? I remember seeing that when it first aired. Never having seen Teri's prior scenes on Tales From the Crypt and MacGuyver I was like "nice! finally Teri Hatcher gets tied up and gagged!" when she fell into the clutches of the bad guys who had B&G'd Booger. Then the scene comes back and she's filmed from the friggin back as the DEA guy frees her! I was like "dammit, that might be my only chance to see Teri Hatcher B&G!". Thankfully, I couldn't have been more wrong.
KTS
Wednesday May 18 18:40:06 2011
Re: NCIS
The Greyman wrote:

> Wow. If I didn't know better, I'd swear they did that on
> purpose.

It really does seem sometimes as if these directors are deliberately trying to tease us. They must realize that bound and gagged women are a common source of arousal for so many men (and some women). Even from simply a story-telling point of view, it is dramatic and suspenseful to prominently show the bound and gagged woman and the situation that she finds herself in.


Kaman
Wednesday May 18 18:40:21 2011
Re: fast and fuiroius 5
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> has anyone seen this movie?

Yes,

Nothing of interest - unless you like car chases
Moxx of Balhoom
Wednesday May 18 19:03:58 2011
Update Notice
New post with two new Asian films with scenes I located. A couple of new links.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-14WRZCYwsjQ/TcnTgm5u42I/AAAAAAAAAQ4/ab6lORO_eQA/s214/The%2BGreyman.gif
The Greyman
http://greymanreport.blogspot.com/
Wednesday May 18 19:10:44 2011
Re: NCIS Pyrimad re-write
Hmmm... you guys still don't have it quite right:

It's the massive wad of stuffing behind the thick cleave that holds the explosive device.

And... it can't be removed until they get her back to the station where all the "smart ones" can work on freeing her mouth. All that time, Tony is constantly talking to Ziva making all sorts of wisecracks and jokes knowing she can't respond in kind. Ziva can only sit, roll her eyes, and steam.
The Greyman
Wednesday May 18 19:31:20 2011
Re: charlie's angels prreview vid
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Too bad it wasn't Minka Kelly bound and gagged on the
> bed.
> I think the kidnap victim is played by Aubrey Peeples.

FYI--I read a review of the script for the pilot, and this is clearly an early scene. The kidnapping is resolved in the first fifteen minutes. Could be another scene later.
ss
Wednesday May 18 19:45:15 2011
Re: Frustration Hall of Fame
Van wrote:


> As I recall (I saw "The Mean Season" years ago)
> after her kidnapping, Mariel had ropeburns on her wrists.
> It's like they were *toying* with us! Aaaaaaargh!

And also she ends up with a cloth around her neck that looks suspiciously like a gag...that we never got to see......(sigh).

Another frustration candidate....BIG BAD MAMA, with Angie Dickenson gloating over a tied-to-the-bed Joan Prather, telling her boys "feed her...then gag her!"....which of course we never see or hear about again.....
JP
japfeif@aol.com
Wednesday May 18 19:48:56 2011
Masiela Lusha scene on DVD!
If I read correctly, the Season 6 Criminal Intent Law and Order DVD set is coming out June 2011. That includes the episode Blasters with the Masiela Lusha scene. I checked on Netflix and it looks like you can stream it for now until the dvd's are officially out. Something to look very forward to kick the summer off with!!! She is so hottttt
Big J
Wednesday May 18 19:50:10 2011
Re: NCIS Pyrimad re-write
The Greyman wrote:

> Hmmm... you guys still don't have it quite right:
> It's the massive wad of stuffing behind the thick cleave
> that holds the explosive device.
> And... it can't be removed until they get her back to the
> station where all the "smart ones" can work on
> freeing her mouth. All that time, Tony is constantly
> talking to Ziva making all sorts of wisecracks and jokes
> knowing she can't respond in kind. Ziva can only sit,
> roll her eyes, and steam.

Bravo, Greyman! That's *perfect* NCIS, totally in line with the Ziva/Tony dynamic.

The only minor enhancement I'd make is to have Ziva's wrists cuffed behind her back and the cuffs wired to the bomb, like the gag. That way, she'd be sitting there gagged *&* bound and rolling her eyes while Tony does his junior high class clown routine. I can see Gibbs in the background trying not to grin.

Also, Abby would be making remarks like "Wow, that's a great gag!" and "I wish I had a pair of cuffs like that!" McGee: "You have handcuffs."
Abby: "Not like *those*! I can get out of *my* cuffs."

Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.vansfiction.net
Wednesday May 18 19:52:40 2011
Re: Charlie's Angels preview vid
This post was deleted.

Poster: (unsigned poster)
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Wednesday May 18 20:00:49 2011
My Collection
This post was deleted.

Poster: Collectorrrrr
Reason: No clips here. Video page. Grrrr.
The Moderator
Wednesday May 18 20:03:16 2011
criminal minds
I saw a preview for one of the episodes tonight with a few seconds of a cleave gagged girl did anyone see it also
Dennis
bigden1962@yahoo.com
Wednesday May 18 20:06:34 2011
Re: NCIS Zivapocalypse
This post was deleted.

Poster: Kaman
Reason: You know better than this. The various conspiracy theories about how them evil directors are depriving you of your well-deserved scenes have been off-topic for like a decade.
The Moderator
Wednesday May 18 20:53:20 2011
Re: NCIS Zivapocalypse
This post was deleted.

Poster: (unsigned poster)
Reason: Follow-up to deleted post.
The Moderator
Wednesday May 18 20:53:48 2011
Re: NCIS Zivapocalypse
This post was deleted.

Poster: (unsigned poster)
Reason: Ditto.
The Moderator
Wednesday May 18 20:55:23 2011
Re: charlie's angels preview vid
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> I guess I should have been more clear?

I don't know how what I said was unclear. So, yes, you can
talk about the scene. Sheesh.

The Moderator
Wednesday May 18 22:31:23 2011
Re: NCIS Pyrimad re-write
>>>>Van wrote:

> Bravo, Greyman! That's *perfect* NCIS, totally in line
> with the Ziva/Tony dynamic.<<<<

Thanks, and I don't even watch the show on a regular basis. (The Gibbs character irritates me. Every time he does that "head slap" thing it pisses me off. I so want Tony to come around and knock the living shit out of him the next time he pulls that crap)


>>>>>The only minor enhancement I'd make is

It's too damn bad we can't get hired as TV writers, huh Van? Not sure how great the plots would be, but the actresses would definitely earn their pay in ropes and gags!

OTOH, this IS television we're talking about here. How bad could we really do on the plots anyway?
The Greyman
Wednesday May 18 22:35:43 2011
Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior
There is a scene tonight but to late to save the show. CBS canceled it.
civil
Wednesday May 18 22:56:43 2011
Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior
civil wrote:

> There is a scene tonight but to late to save the show.
> CBS canceled it.

The scene begins with actress Christine Garver tasered at :38 in... Next seen at :43, she is laying on a cot, hands behind her back and gagged with a thin white cleave.

After the commercial break, she is still on the bed at :49, but now is being photo'd from the top of her head as she is chlorophormed. Cops break in and save her at :52.
I didn't see the first half of the episode, so I don't know if there was anything else prior to this.
Gagster
Wednesday May 18 23:02:27 2011
Re: Frustration Hall of Fame
JP wrote:

> And also she ends up with a cloth around her neck that
> looks suspiciously like a gag...that we never got to
> see......(sigh)

Worst ever example of this was the Kristen Meadows scene in an episode of "The Fall Guy" mentioned above. In Mariel's case it MIGHT have been an innocent scarf but Kirsten's was definitely meant to be a gag. When she was snatched in her, as I recall, dark coloured evening dress there was nothing around her meck. When the heroes find her tied up she has a white cloth around her neck. I have spent the past 25 years or so wondering if there was a scene which ended up on the cutting room floor....(sob)
Kenny
Wednesday May 18 23:07:47 2011
Diet Tape Scene
Hey ya'll

Anyone remember a scene from a few years back in a diet commercial? A cute black chick was tape-gagged in front of a table full of food?

Ringing any bells? I think it may have been discussed here.
Wednesday May 18 23:20:04 2011
Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior
civil wrote:

> There is a scene tonight but to late to save the show.
> CBS canceled it.

There is one more episode next week. The preview for next week's episode (the season/series finale) shows two women bound and blindfolded. I don't know who the first one is, but the second one is Janine Garofalo.

Kaman
Wednesday May 18 23:28:02 2011
Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior
Kaman wrote:

> second one is Janine Garofalo.

That woman seriouly needs a gag.
civil
Wednesday May 18 23:45:53 2011
Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior
civil wrote:

> Kaman wrote:
> > second one is Janine Garofalo.
> That woman seriouly needs a gag.

Second that motion.


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