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Thursday May 05 00:16:07 2011
Re: Endure on DVD is indeed in Redbox machines right now
Watched it last night have postd video on the video page

Devilman
Devilman
fwm_2007@yahoo.com
Thursday May 05 00:38:39 2011
Re: Endure on DVD is indeed in Redbox machines right now
Indeed, Devilman did a great job of editing together all the Clare Kramer scenes. He posted it to the Video Page. Here's some more information on this awesome movie:

It's an amazing movie for DiD lovers. Kramer looks great, and she's bound and cleave-gagged for virtually every second she's in the film, starting with the very first shot: It's a tight closeup of her gagged face, one of dozens of closeups we get in the film.

You see her from a lot of different angles, emoting like crazy, although it's really silly that she doesn't really scream or gag-talk at all. She spends the majority of the film with her hands cuffed above her to a rope tied to a tree branch. Other than a nasty scrape/bruise on her forehead, she looks great.

You can see the scenes on Devilman's link, but there are a few other things of note: For one, the detectives come across a wall full of Polariods in the villain's house. All 18(!) Polaroids are of women's faces -- and all are cleave-gagged. You get a couple of shots of the pictures, one closer than the other, but the quality still isn't great. Still, it's 18 different cleave-gagged women, which is rather incredible. My guess is that these were shots taken of various actresses who auditioned for the Kramer role.

Finally, there's only one short extra, but it does give us several shots of Kramer gagged behind-the-scenes. At one point the director says something to her and she gag-talks a response. It's definitely worth checking out.
Miss Cleo
Thursday May 05 01:20:21 2011
Raffish DiD clips
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Poster: GS
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Thursday May 05 02:06:08 2011
Clare Kramer
Clare Kramer keeps a very active Twitter account. If anyone dares ask her on Twitter what filming "Endure" was like you might get a good response.
Thursday May 05 10:34:51 2011
Regarding Books
Some books with first person bondage accounts are:
"The Lying Game" by Sara Shepard (read by Cassandra Morris in audiobook form)
"The Summoning" by Kelley Armstrong (read by Cassandra Morris)
"The Man in the Brown Suit" by Agatha Christie (read by Emelia Fox)
"Dragon's Keep" by Janet Lee Carey (read by Bianca Amato)
"Fairest" by Gail Carson Levine (read by Sarah Naughton)
"Curse of the Blue Tattoo" by L.A. Meyer (read by Katherine Kellgren)
"A Breath of Snow and Ashes" by Diana Gabaldon (read by Geraldine James)
"Live to Tell" by Lisa Gardner (read by Rebecca Lowman)
"Wild Sorrow" by Sandi Ault (read by Therese Plummer)
"Twilight Mediator" by Meg Cabot (read by Johanna Parker)
"Money Shot" by Christa Faust (read by Susie Bright)
"You Are So Undead to Me" by Jay Stacey (read by Jessica Almasy)
"Land of the Living" by Nicci French (read by Anne Flosnik)
CD
Thursday May 05 12:09:38 2011
A question
Here's a discussion...

Most damsels have on average 10, maybe 15 minutes total screentime in a movie. What movies give the damsel the most screen time while bound & gagged?
Thursday May 05 12:51:26 2011
Re: A question
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> What movies give the damsel the
> most screen time while bound & gagged?

Easy answer: The Disappearance Of Alice Creed
Sam
Thursday May 05 13:13:16 2011
Re: Clare Kramer
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Clare Kramer keeps a very active Twitter account. If
> anyone dares ask her on Twitter what filming
> "Endure" was like you might get a good response.

Or you could scare her off from ever taking a role like that again for fear she'll be bothered by fetish types. Just saying, there are always two sides to these things.
Miss Cleo
Thursday May 05 13:17:23 2011
Re: A question
Sam wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > What movies give the damsel the
> > most screen time while bound & gagged?
> Easy answer: The Disappearance Of Alice Creed

Total time onscreen, I'd agree. Percentage of time onscreen, at least in a full-length feature film, I'd say Kramer just took it. (For a leading role, that is.) You see her super-briefly on a security video in a laundromat from before she was kidnapped, and you see her for maybe 30 seconds total after she's ungagged by the cops and then super-briefly in the hospital. Other than that, she's gagged every second of the film.
Miss Cleo
Thursday May 05 14:45:49 2011
Zoe Saldana in "Colombiana"
Zoe Saldana handcuffed behind by two cops in the movie "Colombiana". Trailer showing scene posted in Video Page.
Brian K.
Thursday May 05 15:21:22 2011
Re: Clare Kramer
Miss Cleo wrote:

> Or you could scare her off from ever taking a role like
> that again for fear she'll be bothered by fetish types. <

Highly unlikely. She's not going to pass up on professional opportunties for that reason. It's a very competitive game.
The Kramer
Thursday May 05 15:35:46 2011
Re: Book Ideas
The Dude wrote:


> Well, I know there's probably not many books that have
> the main character tied up for the whole thing, but I'm
> mainly looking for any that have some good first person
> scenes.

Happy too, but to do it properly I'm gonna have to go look in storage. I'll post a large update over the weekend featuring lots of scenes.
Steve a
Thursday May 05 15:46:24 2011
Re: Regarding Books
CD wrote:

>
> "You Are So Undead to Me" by Jay Stacey (read
> by Jessica Almasy)

One of the best bondage scenes ever. Best gag talk I can recall reading/hearing.
Steve a
Thursday May 05 17:49:14 2011
Re: Clare Kramer
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> ... If
> anyone dares ask her on Twitter what filming
> "Endure" was like you might get a good response.

Please be respectful and VAGUE; there have been a few actresses turned off to responding to fans because of their focus on kink. "Hey, you did a great job, your arms must still be sore lol..."
Thursday May 05 17:52:09 2011
Re: A question
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> ...What movies give the damsel the
> most screen time while bound & gagged?

Malevolence. In the commentary, the director had the nerve to say "..I'll bet this film winds up on bondage sites.." or something like that as if it wasn't intentional. Funny thing is his own niece plays one of the damsels (the daughter character).
Thursday May 05 18:10:48 2011
Liv Tyler Ball Gagged in The Ledge
Just watched the russian trailer for the new movie The ledge and Liv Tyler gets ball gagged cant wait to see this movie now

Devilman
Devilman
fwm_2007@yahoo.com
Thursday May 05 19:21:10 2011
Damsel blindfolded + waking up?
Are there any scenes that people know of where the damsel is:

A) Blindfolded (in addition to being bound + gagged)
B) Waking up from either being knocked out/drugged/chloro
C) Frightened/freaking out with lots of struggling/yelling?

I haven't seen any such things.. I saw like one commercial one once but that was commercial and therefore not realistic.
Mr. Johnson
Thursday May 05 19:52:48 2011
Liv Tyler Ball Gagged in The Ledge
Link to "The Ledge" Russian trailer is in the "Videos Page".

Liv Tyler's scene with the Black ballgag pops about 1:23 in.
J.T.
Thursday May 05 21:35:16 2011
Liv Tyler, The Ledge, the ball-gag
Here's the relevant frame from the Russian trailer.
http://www.vansfiction.net/The-Ledge.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.vansfiction.net
Thursday May 05 21:40:54 2011
Re: Liv Tyler Ballgagged
This is what we're fighting for!
Thursday May 05 21:56:37 2011
CSI (10pm CBS)
Roughly at 28' mark, gal DOA in chair. Cable tie at wrists and legs taped to chair. No gag.

In the last 10 minutes, Lansgton finds his ex wife in a room with a chain wrapped around her wrists. No gag but beat up. Little bit of a dark scene

Continues next week.


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