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Saturday January 22 00:49:37 2011
Wonder Woman IS Coming TO TV!
Despite it being passed on, Wonder Woman got picked up by NBC for a pilot. So while that might not be a done deal, something's in the works.

Now I have to echo the sentiment of someone mentioning Charlie's Angels in that Wonder Woman didn't produce TOO many full b&G scenes, but anything starring her does have potential. I mean, she does wield a lasso and has at least one sexy foe with voice-based superpowers...;)
Saturday January 22 01:37:39 2011
Re: New Charlie's Angels
If we're on the subject of soap starlets being cast as new Angels, soon-to-be ex-Stephanie from DOOL, Shelley Hennig, could be a great pick. She'd fit the bill in my book.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_hivVNZt_eVs/ShLVolmW6qI/AAAAAAAABvg/qKyK0k1l4sg/s400/Shelley_Hennig.jpg
ACC
patdx@hotmail.com
Saturday January 22 02:45:36 2011
Re: New Charlie's Angels
Gagster wrote:

> > Van wrote:
> > >Robin Dearden as the Angels?
> > Robin Dearden was inline for a Angels remake years
> ago?
> > Never heard that.
(anybody been watching "Nikita" this year?)

Actually, NOBODY has been watching "Nikita" this year. The producers are in a mad rush to re-tool and possibly stave off cancelation for another month or so.

They could always just tie her up again. Leo.
Leo
monkmayfair2000@yahoo.com
Saturday January 22 07:04:17 2011
Re: New Charlie's Angels
>>>>Gagster wrote:
>>>>.... you should remember that the original Charlie's Angels was abysmal... and the topper was the lack of production of any decent bondage scenes.
> There were six angels during the course of the series -
> Only two of them were ever gagged - Jackson and Shelly
> Hack, whose one scene was pathetic.

Absolutely agree. The series was much more tease than please for DiD fans. Curiously sad was that Spelling's soap drama "Melrose Place" was a far better producer of scenes than "Charlies Angels" both in quantity and quality.

Another strange oddity: Of all the "Angels", it was only the two "smart" ones (Jackson & Hack) who were ever gagged. None of the "hot" ones (Farrah, Smith, Ladd, & Roberts) ever were.
Vince Grey
Saturday January 22 07:18:56 2011
Re: Onion News Network
shootbinladen wrote:

> David Irons wrote:
> > And so in the first few episodes we see segments
> about an
> > ONN reporter who has been kidnapped in Afghanistan
> and
> > isn�t getting the hair and
> makeup support she needs;

Just watched it. Pictures only no gag with a blindfold. Nothing to check out really.

shootbinladen
Saturday January 22 08:01:20 2011
Re: New Charlie's Angels
(unsigned poster) wrote:
> Van wrote:
> > Personally, I'm not worried about the Angels.
> > My worry (or concern) is the writing.
> Me too but for another reason. I don't understand the
> interest and hype about this show, it's as if the
> original was a DIDfest and it was anything but. Farrah
> and Jaclyn Smith never got gagged and except for the
> episode with the two blondes in the van it was a snooz
> fest for DID.
> The original show, which launched just after the Patty
> Hearst kidnapping, was vehement in it's anti DID stance
> as stated by Aaron Spelling who said in TV Guide at the
> time "we won't have anyone bound and gagged in a
> closet", a clear reference to the painful Hearst story.

I was perplexed as to why a show about three beautiful private investigators who regularly worked undercover almost never featured any of them bound and gagged; now I know. This is a very plausible explanation for the dearth of bondage scenes on a show that should've produced a plethora of them. So its creator, Aaron Spelling, eschewed plots featuring bound and gagged actresses until some time had elapsed after Patty Hearst's horrific ordeal? I just consulted the Scene Database, and learned that the first episode featuring an Angel bound and gagged didn't occur until well into the second season.
Spelling is to be commended for his tact and sensitivity, and for potentially forsaking economic gain as well. Who knows how much more popular Charlie's Angels would've been had it featured one or more of the Angels bound and gagged regularly, say every third or fourth episode?
I can think of two other shows featuring a trio of female crimefighters, She-Spies and Acapulco H.E.A.T., where all three members of the trio were bound and gagged throughout the lifetime of the show, but these shows were short-lived. I think that Charlie's Angels success and longevity were attributable to its novelty as a show. Had there ever been a show in the history of television that featured three beautiful detectives?
Hadji
Saturday January 22 08:35:04 2011
Ana und die Liebe
Looks like there is a quickie scene coming up on German tv series Ana und die Liebe on 1.27.10 for lead actress Jeanette Biedermann. Rob's Forum has some discussion on it in German language with a few caps and a download link to the scene courtesy of poster xanatol.
Shows Ana getting chloro'd then tied hands in front and gagged with a scarf. It's over almost as soon as it starts though.

http://forum.robs-damsels.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7576

Some different pictures at the official site (folge 619):
http://www.sat1.de/annaunddieliebe/annaswelt/vorschau/
MT
Saturday January 22 08:54:26 2011
Re: New Charlie's Angels
> They could always just tie her up again. Leo.

I always wondered, where does this idea that bondage increases ratings come from? I know a lot of movies and tv shows that people here went GAGA over because of the bondage, particularly Funny Games and Ten Rounds, ended up being massive bombs despite having lengthy scenes with bound and gagged ladies.
Saturday January 22 09:04:30 2011
New Angels
We now have our chocolate angel, there will be the token blond. the third will either be brunett or some one ethnic... They are probably going have a more racially diverse cast this time around. Either hispanic or Asian. Wouldn't mind having a spunky asian, ala Lucy Lu. Wouldn't mind having them go a little campy, in the line of 'Chuck'.
Sneakly
sneakly@yahoo.com
Saturday January 22 10:07:04 2011
Re: Onion News Network
shootbinladen wrote:

> shootbinladen wrote:
> > David Irons wrote:
> > > And so in the first few episodes we see
> segments
> > about an
> > > ONN reporter who has been kidnapped in
> Afghanistan
> > and
> > > isn�t getting the hair and
>
> > makeup support she needs;
> Just watched it. Pictures only no gag with a blindfold.
> Nothing to check out really.

You might have missed something, the network sent MUA's to get kidnapped also, so they could clean her up...that they did, and we were shown a video of her tied, blindfolded and cleaned up. The MUA's were also shown duct taped.
David Irons
Saturday January 22 10:10:35 2011
Re: Onion News Network
David Irons wrote:


I then take my previous comment back, i'll go watch it again.

shootbinladen
Saturday January 22 10:22:45 2011
Re: First New Angel
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> > My take from just one pic is that I am not impressed
> in
> > the slightest.
> I agree with you. They're 0 for 1.

I'm going to withhold judgement....ever the optimist.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5oh_7GB-ET0/Ssk5kvLnB6I/AAAAAAAABK8/geTSEYiRKAk/s400/34098703.jpg
http://media.onsugar.com/files/upl1/12/128548/22_2008/fab_3221.jpg
David Irons
Saturday January 22 10:40:36 2011
Re: New Charlie's Angels
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> I always wondered, where does this idea that bondage
> increases ratings come from? I know a lot of movies and
> tv shows that people here went GAGA over because of the
> bondage, particularly Funny Games and Ten Rounds, ended
> up being massive bombs despite having lengthy scenes with
> bound and gagged ladies.

VAN's FIRST LAW: It's not about the BONDAGE, it's about the STORY.

The Damsel-in-Distress is as old as telling stories around the fire while gnawing on mastodon bones. Why was "Funny Games" a flop? Sometimes it doesn't matter how beautiful or talented the actress playing the damsel, or how well-rigged, tight, and extensive the bondage scenes. Some idiot might find the backing to make a mean-spirited, thoroughly unpleasant, dark-for-the-sake-of-being-dark movie... that doesn't mean I have to watch it.

There are many movie cliches that *can* be done well, like extended car chases and blowing-things-up-real-good, but just because they're in a movie, that doesn't mean it'll be a hit.
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.vansfiction.net
Saturday January 22 11:14:08 2011
Re: New Charlie's Angels
ACC wrote:

> If we're on the subject of soap starlets being cast as
> new Angels, soon-to-be ex-Stephanie from DOOL, Shelley
> Hennig, could be a great pick. She'd fit the bill in my book.

Just hope for a little better camerawork if she gets a scene.
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1091/days9.jpg
Saturday January 22 12:40:53 2011
Speculate all you want....
...but unless you are member of the WGA and are part of the writing team of the proposed remake of "Charlie's Angels", or any other action oriented show with female charachters, the chance of these shows being a B&G fest are slim and none.

Remeber the people who think that a woman who ends up B&G means she's inept or stupid are the same ones who think an Uzi can be fired on full auto for several minutes without placing in a fresh 30 round clip every few seconds, a car can upshift more than five times without down shifting, and a car can fly over a cliff and explode before it even hits the bottom.
Historian
historian64@hotmail.com
Saturday January 22 12:46:40 2011
Wonder Woman on NBC soon?
I know this has been talked about in the past but is NBC picking this pilot news? Dont know the alleged pick for the lead (Jamie Alexander), but she's supposed to be in the upcoming Thor movie.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_lybvqSdzvmM/TG1y_nCiABI/AAAAAAAAAOI/gYiTAIYHgqo/s320/Jamie+alexander.jpg
MAV
http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/01/21/wonder-woman-project-finds-a-home-at-nbc/?hpt=T2
Saturday January 22 12:52:09 2011
Re: Wonder Woman IS Coming TO TV!
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Despite it being passed on, Wonder Woman got picked up by
> NBC for a pilot.

Interesting. The article mentions that the show is going to be darker and less campy than the original. It mentions that she'll still have her trademark wristbands, lasso and jet, but they don't go into detail about the costume.

If it really is darker, they probably won't be going with the "classic" costume. Hopefully this will still lead to SOME bondage though.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/6251058/nbc_picks_up_wonder_woman_tv_series.html
Saturday January 22 13:13:27 2011
Re: Wonder Woman on NBC soon?

> I know this has been talked about in the past but is NBC
> picking this pilot news? Dont know the alleged pick for
> the lead (Jamie Alexander), but she's supposed to be in
> the upcoming Thor movie.

I haven't heard anything about the actress being rumored. She seems a bit young. The synopsis says something about her being a powerful business exec who is secretly a superhero, so I'm imagining someone who at least looks older than Alexander.
Saturday January 22 14:11:24 2011
Re: Speculate all you want....
Seriously, some of the speculation about what the new Charlie's Angels show will turn out to provide in terms of B&G material assumes way too much.

Yes, the old T.J. Hooker days of the hot chick cop constantly becoming a damsel-in-distress are over. But that hardly means that strong female characters in action shows will not get B&G on occasion.

Just the other night, the strong female leads on Chase got B&G'd. Over on Burn Notice, the very tough Fiona character has been B&G'd three times already. (Sure, one was a bit of playacting, and she essentially volunteered to be a hostage in another, but hell with it, they count.)

No, the new Charlie's Angels probably won't be She Spies, where we could count on one or all our girls to get at least tied up every episode (plus guest stars). It probably also won't be Spanish-language Angeles, which took Spanish soaps as its cue to get its ladies in trouble.

But the fact remains that these are three women out solving crimes and mysteries, and doing so in a show that inherently will be softer than a serious crime procedural. That means there will be tie-ups at some point, people. And possibly gags.

I actually think the fact that female crimefighters are taken more seriously in 2011 than they were in '70s is a good thing. The original Angels almost never got gagged, and the few tie-ups were lame, because they weren't considered much of a threat. If you take a 21st-century Angel hostage, she's going to do everything she can to get free. That means you damn well need to tie her up, and probably gag her too.

Remember: Scully was considered a strong (albeit tiny) FBI agent on X-Files, and we got a lot of great full-treatment scenes from her.

Finally, don't forget that the new show has Drew Barrymore as its executive producer. I don't think she considers having a woman tied up to be inappropriate, considering she had a producer role in the first film, in which her own character gets bound and gagged, then beats up a bunch of guys while she's still tied up.

The fact that Hollywood now treats women as much more capable than it did in the '70s and '80s is not necessarily a bad thing for our fetish. Let's see what happens with Charlie's Angels before we just assume it will be a nothingburger.
Miss Cleo
Saturday January 22 14:17:14 2011
Primeval Emily
Well,just watching the latest episode now,and have been rewarded with a scene of Ruth Bradley's character,Emily,nicely tied up hands behind.I think she gets gagged later on in the episode.The episode is set near the coast,where there's something nasty again,bumping off anybody unfortunate enough to cross it's path.
David
Saturday January 22 14:20:40 2011
And regarding Annie Ilonzeh ...
AKA the first Angel cast, that's just a really bad picture of her. Punch her name into YT and you'll see a bunch of soap clips of her where she looks a lot cuter. Seriously, the way people pass judgment in all of a half-second in the Internet age...
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5oh_7GB-ET0/S31Qx1DxyJI/AAAAAAAAEBk/7G7tYUr7UzE/s1600-h/200299.jpg
Miss Cleo
Saturday January 22 14:22:32 2011
Okay, so I'm terrible with image links.
Here's a link to a more attractive pic of Miss Ilonzeh.
Miss Cleo
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5oh_7GB-ET0/S31Qx1DxyJI/AAAAAAAAEBk/7G7tYUr7UzE/s1600-h/200299.jpg
Saturday January 22 14:57:03 2011
Primeval.Emily kidnapped.
Well,it was a pretty good episode with Ruth giving a good performance in this one.She gets handgagged,as well as gagged.Although there's a mistake.The bad guy puts her in a coffin,and is rescued,but you don't see her hands tied.Still,it was pretty good.Hope you chaps across the pond enjoy it.
David
Saturday January 22 15:42:45 2011
Re: New Charlie's Angels
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> > They could always just tie her up again. Leo.
> I always wondered, where does this idea

This is not a profitable avenue of discussion. End it here.

The Moderator
Saturday January 22 15:44:53 2011
A list actresses
other a list actresses who didn't get the full treatment
greta garbo, marlena dietrich, tullah bankhead, marilyn monroe, bette davis, helen hunt, (i've never seen this amy prentiss scene and i doubt it exsists) barbara stanwyck (although not an a lister but I always liked her, Stephanie Zimbalist even though she had ample opportunities from Remington Steele to the very real possiblety of "The man in the brown suit" which in the book had a very lengthy B&G scene in it. There are many other A list actresses who never got the treatment
Saturday January 22 18:18:21 2011
FRINGE
Late alert, tonight at 11pm on Fox they're re-showing the episode Firefly that had Olivia being found tapegagged in the first fifteen minutes.
I royally screwed up an alerts page attempt, but all you need to know is that tonight at 11pm they're showing something good on Fox.
HALLBIRD
Saturday January 22 19:02:05 2011
Re: FRINGE
HALLBIRD wrote:

> Late alert, tonight at 11pm on Fox they're re-showing the
> episode Firefly that had Olivia being found tapegagged in
> the first fifteen minutes.

You may be a bit confused - there is a scene in the first 15 minutes, but its not the character Olivia, its a guest-actress named Olivia Cheng. The full description is in the database.

Gagster
Saturday January 22 20:25:09 2011
Re: "A-List" Actresses
Vince Grey wrote:
> I still hold onto the faintest hope that some obscure
> film or TV series from the 60's or early seventies has a
> scene with Raquel Welch in it. That this possibly hottest
> babe of all time didn't ever get the full treatment is
> the DiD crime of the century, IMO.
She did get half the treatment, three times in fact, on THIS IS TOM JONES musical variety show back in the early 70's. It was one of those ubiquitous "Along Came Jones" skits and our goddess Raquel of course played Sweet Sue while wearing as skimpy dancers outfit! No gag of course, how could she sing? But still seeing her tied up and saying, "Help, Help! He's tied me up!" is, to me, just as good. Plus thanks to song it was more than one tie up. There was the dynamite, the saw mill, and the railroad tracks. I cannot for the life of me figure why the hell no one has posted this video. Its a true Holy Grail as I haven't seen it since it first aired and I've been searching for it since I first got on the internet.
Like you said, Raquel is the hottest babe of all time, she's hotter than all the girls in Terror Among Us x 100!


Ethan
Saturday January 22 20:30:39 2011
Re: Primeval.Emily kidnapped.
David wrote:

> Well,it was a pretty good episode with Ruth giving a good
> performance in this one.She gets handgagged,as well as
> gagged.Although there's a mistake.The bad guy puts her in
> a coffin,and is rescued..

Was it tonite's episode here in teh States? There are 2 episodes on, and the second one in the program grid mentions a school. So does that mean the gag scene won't be seen in the US till next week?
Saturday January 22 21:11:10 2011
general hospital
hey what ever happened with the girl in the picture who was tied to the chair? have they showed her anymore? Thanks, RR
Saturday January 22 21:14:13 2011
Re: "Black Death" Movie
Van wrote:

> March 2011 will (supposedly) see a limited release of
> "Black Death" in US theaters.

Looking at the stills on imdb, it looks like there could be more DiD... but i fear bad endings... they have girls tied to cross like things

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3282863360/tt1181791
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2822800384/tt1181791
JD
Saturday January 22 21:27:53 2011
Re: general hospital
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> hey what ever happened with the girl in the picture who
> was tied to the chair? have they showed her anymore?
> Thanks, RR

Sown briefly on Friday still tied to the chair, no gag.


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