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Friday January 10 00:37:49 2020
Zee
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Friday January 10 01:46:28 2020
DVDs or Blu-Rays with pictures on packaging?
I'm an old timer who still likes to collect movies (and TV shows} on DVD or occasionally Blu-Ray if the price is reasonable. I wonder if people can give some examples of those formats where the cases or whatever you want to call the packaging have pictures on them of the bondage scene(s) from the show(s). Thanks very much.
Friday January 10 02:04:19 2020
Re: DVDs or Blu-Rays with pictures on packaging?
The back of the DVD for A Life Less Ordinary has a good still of Cameron Diaz's duct tape gag scene.
Friday January 10 03:19:53 2020
Deputy
New Serie. I hope there is a chance to See Bey Taylor-Klaus to get The gag. She was avoiding The gag even in scream.
Barnes
Friday January 10 04:30:38 2020
Re: Deputy
On January 10 2020 Barnes wrote:

> New Serie. I hope there is a chance to See Bey
> Taylor-Klaus to get The gag. She was avoiding The gag
> even in scream.

Sorry i meant Bex of course
Barnes
Friday January 10 05:58:56 2020
VAN's FiCTiON is Updated!
Hi-Ho fellow DiDoids, & Happy Friday! Chapter 5 of *An Entanglement of Witches* is posted to VAN's FiCTiON. Enjoy! :-)

http://www.vansfiction.net/
Van
vansfiction@hotmail.com
Friday January 10 07:05:57 2020
Re: DVDs or Blu-Rays with pictures on packaging?
The cover of Deadly Virtues has a lady kneeling in wrist and elbow bondage on it.
Tim Creed
Friday January 10 07:33:01 2020
Medical Police (Netflix Show)
This comedy show has a couple of scenes in its first season. The first one takes place in episode 5 right around the 11:00 mark. Lake Bell is tied to a chair with lots of loose rope. After a brief conversation with the episode’s villain, she is gagged on screen with a strip of duct tape. She is seen again at 16:30 trying to break free and talking relatively legibly through her gag to herself. She “comically” gets free.

The next full treatment comes in episode 9. At around the 8:20 mark police stumble upon a couple of body bags in the back of a van. Erinn Hayes emerges from one of them bound hands in front and gagged with a strip of duct tape. She takes it off to speak to them. As she does, a putz and Sarayu Blue also emerge from their respective bags, we see no bonds, but their duct-gagged faces peak out.

All-in-all, none of these scenes are fantastic, but it is awesome to finally see Lake Bell get a full treatment scene. I have been wanting one for her since Surface.
Dr. X
Friday January 10 07:48:39 2020
Re: Medical Police (Netflix Show)
On January 10 2020 Dr. X wrote:
> All-in-all, none of these scenes are fantastic, but it is
> awesome to finally see Lake Bell get a full treatment
> scene. I have been wanting one for her since Surface

Wow. Happy new year. Been waiting for lake bell since Surface like you. And Erinn Hayes is a hottie that was on the Kevin James sitcom reboot.

And screen caps available for this?

Friday January 10 08:30:58 2020
Re: Gretel & Hansel 2020
Skimming through the photos of this film on The IMDB there's a shot of Sophia Lillis sitting at a table with a dinner setting in front of her with what looks suspiciously like a dirty white cloth hanging around her neck. Could be just the collar of her dress but maybe not. Have a feeling this film will have something in it for us. Just seems that it will. Advance screenings should be soon
Friday January 10 10:02:31 2020
Mrs. America
In the trailer of "Mrs. America" can be seen a handgag at 1:40 (Sarah Paulson?). Otherwise, I don’t expect to see any DID scene on a show like this.

By the way, the protagonist is the marvelous Cate Blanchett, that this year will star the biopic of Lucille Ball, which means it’s possible be able to see her in bondage scenes.
Friday January 10 10:16:42 2020
Any info?
Any info on this one?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9786870/mediaviewer/rm3539296512
Friday January 10 10:45:46 2020
Re: ID
On January 09 2020 James Gagney wrote:

> Sounds like Australian comedy thriller Touch and Go .
> Group of female robbers raid a hotel in scuba gear . No
> maids though . One fairly attractive telephone operator
> is bound and white tape gagged , also two older ones are
> bound and gagged separately , one the hotel managers wife

This is possible, just that I don't recall an Australian accent in the movie. But like I said Scene Creep on my part
Friday January 10 10:58:41 2020
Re: Medical Police (Netflix Show)
On January 10 2020 (unsigned poster) wrote:

> > scene. I have been wanting one for her since Surface
> Wow. Happy new year. Been waiting for lake bell since
> Surface like you. And Erinn Hayes is a hottie that was on
> the Kevin James sitcom reboot.
> And screen caps available for this?

OK, sorry to be the downer, but these two scenes were god-awful

On Lake Bell, she's got makeup on for some type of theater show, plus a costume and hat, doesn't even look like Lake Bell. The gag is loose, which is fine with me if the girl looked like Lake Bell. Just terrible.

On Erinn Hayes, she is only shown gagged from a distance and when the camera pans in, her hand is removing the tape. The second girl was hot and her gag looked OK but you can barely see her head from the body bag.

All in all, save your time on these.
Friday January 10 11:21:18 2020
Re: Medical Police (Netflix Show)
On January 10 2020 (unsigned poster) wrote:

> > And screen caps available for this?
> OK, sorry to be the downer, but these two scenes were
> god-awful
> On Lake Bell, she's got makeup on for some type of
> theater show, plus a costume and hat

I made one screencap, ladies and gents, the super hot Lake Bell finally in bondage!

https://i.imgur.com/UcM9GIg.png
Friday January 10 13:23:53 2020
Deepfake in mainstream bondage?
I hope this post can stay, because it's an interesting topic I'm touching on, I think. Does anyone know whether deepfake has started to make its way into bondage? I mean imagine guys, just imagine how awesome could it have been if the beautiful, 22 year old Winona Ryder had played the role of the bound and gagged cop in Reservoir Dogs (1993)! Can something like that be done? Or are we not there yet? To make it look like it's her?
Matt
Friday January 10 14:24:23 2020
Re: Deepfake in mainstream bondage?
We're not there yet.
Friday January 10 14:28:10 2020
Re: Gretel & Hansel 2020
On January 10 2020 (unsigned poster) wrote:

> Skimming through the photos of this film on The IMDB
> there's a shot of Sophia Lillis sitting at a table with a
> dinner setting in front of her with what looks
> suspiciously like a dirty white cloth hanging around her
> neck. Could be just the collar of her dress but maybe
> not. Have a feeling this film will have something in it
> for us. Just seems that it will. Advance screenings should be soon

If you look the rest of the photos you will see that it is effectively a collar. That doesn't mean it wouldn't any scene on the movie, but it wouldn't be that

Max
Friday January 10 17:33:19 2020
Re: Gretel & Hansel 2020
It probably is just a collar. Film looks very dark so hopefully there's something. Same with The Turning with Mackenzie Davis. Although that looks mostly ghost-related but you never know. Any thriller or horror film has potential
Friday January 10 21:23:09 2020
Why do you think "stuffing" exists in mainstream scenes?
Ties and a gag serve a purpose related to the plot, but unless the director wants the actress to shout or something, it always seems to me like adding stuffing to a gag is more of a personal preference than something that drives the story. I know of many scenes where the damsel doesn't make so much as a mmmph and yet have stuffing behind their gags. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, But it definitely feels like there's many people like us in the business.
Friday January 10 21:45:39 2020
Re: Medical Police (Netflix Show)
On January 10 2020 (unsigned poster) wrote:

On Lake Bell, she's got makeup on for some type of
theater show, plus a costume and hat, doesn't even look
like Lake Bell. The gag is loose, which is fine with me
if the girl looked like Lake Bell. Just terrible.

Are you kidding me? It's a very nice scene. If only for her groans...
Friday January 10 22:00:13 2020
Re: Deputy
> She was avoiding The gag
> even in scream.

"Even in Scream"? The most male-bondage obsessed franchise in film/TV history?
Friday January 10 22:03:03 2020
Baby Monitor Murders
Minor scene in this LMN premier. About 15 minutes from the end, the main character discovers Nicole LaPlaca, who's been missing for most of the movie, in the basement that she's been locked in. Only a quick glimpse of her tapegagged from a distance and no visible bonds as the basement is kinda dark. She's ungagged onscreen but the camera angle is from behind her so no good shots of her gagged. She's released offscreen. For completists and not up to Lifetime's usual standards. ;)
Friday January 10 22:11:08 2020
Re: Why do you think "stuffing" exists in mainstream scenes?
On January 10 2020 (unsigned poster) wrote:

> Ties and a gag serve a purpose related to the plot, but
> unless the director wants the actress to shout or
> something, it always seems to me like adding stuffing to
> a gag is more of a personal preference than something
> that drives the story. I know of many scenes where the
> damsel doesn't make so much as a mmmph and yet have
> stuffing behind their gags. Don't get me wrong, I'm not
> complaining, But it definitely feels like there's many
> people like us in the business.

I've always been of the school of thought that it's a case of realism. Many directors (or writers, whoever actually comes up with the fine-tuning things in scenes) just figure if we need to see a woman in a perilous situation, a simple few coils of rope & a loose OTM gag will serve the same purpose...she's restrained & silenced...and there's always a "suspension of disbelief" to the scene. And honestly, most folks in the audience aren't gonna dissect the scene ("Oh, her hands are tied in front, she could pull down her gag" or "Gee, they didn't cross her ankles before tying them, why isn't she just hopping away" or the ever-popular...and often quite justified..."there's NO WAY she couldn't yell for help even with that gag on")...in general, it just serve as something to drive the plot forward. But every so often a director will want to strive for a bit more realism and figure the audience is savvy enough to realize that flimsy gags & obviously loose ties just aren't realistic in "real life"...and so they add little touches like gag packing and tighter ties, etc.
So IMO it's just a matter of how true-to-a-real-situation the director wants to make it. I've never thought it had to do with supposed "non-gag clauses" or anything like that. In fact, wasn't it Naomi Watts who insisted her ropes & gag be totally realistic on "Funny Games" so that the situation would appear more authentic?

And there ARE some folks who do see thru the weak bondage things.. I remember some time ago I saw the scene online from some years back on General Hospital when Laura Wright ("Carly") had been kidnapped by the crazy lady and was kept in the cabin with a very thin cleave gag on...and was actually having conversations with her kidnapper while the gag was on (resulting in a rather funny line from the baddie, something like "Oh my God, even with a gag on you're still so annoying!"). But yet, a bit later, when some folks come to the cabin and are outside talking to the bad lady, Carly mysteriously couldn't make a sound to attract their attention even though they were like 10 feet away. And if you read the viewer's comments, there were quite a few comments on how there was "no way she couldn't have yelled thru that gag or at least made some noise", stuff like that (in fact I was kinda surprised at how many folks commented on the gag situation).
So point is, sometimes folks DO notice and so I think some director realize that in some cases, realism is a better way to go.

JP
japfeif@aol.com

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