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Monday June 17 00:00:49 2019
Re: Kidnapping Stella
On June 16 2019 Pixy wrote:

> Seems like the movie is aquired by Netflix and will be
out next month.

Unfortunately she is overdressed in a baggy sweatsuit but it is a nice gag:

https://d1nslcd7m2225b.cloudfront.net/Pictures/2000x2000fit/1/4/8/1291148_kidnappingstellaferberfilm_941233.jpg

https://www.filmtv.it/film/167345/kidnapping-stella/
Monday June 17 01:27:16 2019
Re: Scenes where the actresses are visibly embarrassed?
This is off into low-interest non-productive territory. Let's end it.

The Moderator
Monday June 17 01:46:41 2019
Re: Kidnapping Stella
The stripping scene should still be there
Pixy
Monday June 17 02:37:30 2019
Re: Kidnapping Stella
On June 17 2019 (unsigned poster) wrote:

> On June 16 2019 Pixy wrote:
> > Seems like the movie is aquired by Netflix and will
> be
> out next month.
> Unfortunately she is overdressed in a baggy sweatsuit but
> it is a nice gag:
> https://d1nslcd7m2225b.cloudfront.net/Pictures/2000x2000fi
> t/1/4/8/1291148_kidnappingstellaferberfilm_941233.jpg
> https://www.filmtv.it/film/167345/kidnapping-stella/

why no Ballgag like in the original movie? It would perfectly fit in her mouth. This kind of gag they used looks like a thicker cleave gag. disappointed

Barnes
Monday June 17 03:39:45 2019
Lee Soo Kyung
Source?
https://www.deviantart.com/wudixiao/art/Lee-Soo-Kyung-790532023
anonymous
Monday June 17 05:23:57 2019
Re: Kidnapping Stella
Agree with Barnes pretty average gag. It is far too big for her mouth doesn't fit well at all. Gemma Arterton's orange ballgag in Alice Creed is probably the best mainstream example to date it perfectly fits snugly between her gorgeous lips. The blonde in Bloedlink wore her black ballgag well too. No problem with the German makers' changing the gag but it could've been a tight knotted cleave or a leather otm muzzle like in Don't Breathe for example. Maybe it'll look better in some shots at least we know there'll be over ten minutes of solid bondage screen-time. Reckon the French and Spanish would do great versions of Creed btw
Anon
Monday June 17 08:51:37 2019
Re: Kidnapping Stella
Is interesting how Alice Creed keeps getting all these remakes. Stella is the third(there's a Chinese one too). Maybe because it's an archetypal kidnap/ransom thriller. The original writer/director must enjoy all the royalties(notice he hasn't done that much since). The regional differences between each version set them apart even though the plots follow more or less the same path. Don't think this will be the last remake either. Guaranteed full-treatment fun. They could probably make a stage play out of it too. Cast of 3, minimal sets...
Monday June 17 11:44:47 2019
Depend commercial
For those of you who enjoy mature damsels, as I do, you'll keep an eye out for a new commercial from Depend adult undergarments. It shows a very lovely mature lady being tied up by her grandson who is dressed as a cowboy. She sits in a tiny chair, hands behind her, as he wraps the rope around her.
Louis KC
Monday June 17 12:25:21 2019
Die Heimlichen Blicke des Moerders scene request
This post was deleted.

Poster: (unsigned poster)
Reason: Video request or link not on Video Page. See FAQs 1.11 & 1.12.
The Moderator
Monday June 17 15:44:47 2019
Re: Palina Rojinski scene
On June 16 2019 (unsigned poster) wrote:

> Does anyone know anything about it? Does anyone have that
> scene?

It's from the german show Circus Halligalli, I posted a link to the scene on the Video Page
Monday June 17 17:35:10 2019
Re: Alice Creed vs The Fan Club
> Is interesting how Alice Creed keeps getting all these
> remakes. Stella is the third (there's a Chinese one too). Maybe because it's an archetypal kidnap/ransom thriller.
> The original writer/director must enjoy all the
> royalties(notice he hasn't done that much since). The
> regional differences between each version set them apart even though the plots follow more or less the same path. Don't think this will be the last remake either.

> They could probably make a stage play out of it too. Cast of 3, minimal sets...
~~~~
What's puzzling to me is why "Alice Creed" continues to be re-made internationally, while the similar-themed Irving Wallace's "The Fan Club" (1974) which peaked at #2 on the New York Times best-seller list is still in hiatus.

"The Fan Club": A well-known bombshell actress is kidnapped by four ordinary Joes and is held captive in isolated cabin for sex. She categories their personalities ("Dreamer"; "Salesman"; "Milquetoast"; "The Evil One"), and devises a plan based on their weaknesses to play them off against each other.

"Alice Creed": Kidnapped by two ordinary Joes, she plays them off against each other.

Columbia Pictures bought the film rights to "The Fan Club" in 1979, and despite some A-list actress names being bandied about is still not in production. I'm not aware of a stage adaptation, although it's certainly possible it's something I never heard about.
J.T.
Monday June 17 17:43:34 2019
Re: Nancy Drew Book
From 'Mystery of the Masked Rider'. Later on, there's a similar rescue for Bess, who also describes being B&G

https://i.imgur.com/q0ntIV9.png

Monday June 17 17:45:22 2019
Re: Depend commercial
On June 17 2019 Louis KC wrote:

> For those of you who enjoy mature damsels


Thanks for the heads up. Mature damsels are great.
B.G.
Monday June 17 17:57:48 2019
Re: DiD scenes early in TV episodes
On June 15 2019 Historian wrote:


> I'd like to know if there are any other TV episodes
> where the DiD scene (or all scenes) is over with before
> the midpoint of the episode.

Here are a few more examples:

Title: Dragnet (1967) Episode: "Homicide DR 22" (3.14) Damsel: Unknown
Friday and Gannon investigate the case of a beautiful young blonde found dead in her apartment – and left hogtied and detective gagged. The medical examiner removes the ropes and gag (making sure to save the knots) at about the one-quarter point (those guys work fast).

Title: Silk Stalkings Episode: "Whore Wars" (3.15) Damsel: Kimberly Campbell
In the episode’s prologue, Nancy "Dimples" Belle (Kimberly Campbell) is tied to a bed and tape-gagged in her bra. She comes to an unhappy end.

Title: Acapulco H.E.A.T. (1993) Episode: "Code Name: Rip Van Winkle" (1.13) Damsel: Alison Armitage
At about the 17 minute mark, H.E.A.T. agent Cat Pascal (Alison Armitage), disguised as a nurse, enters the quarters of Miles, a retired intelligence operative. Unfortunately, Cat sets off Miles’ makeshift intruder alarm system, consisting of cereal bits crunching underfoot. “I guess they never told you old Miles is a light sleeper, did they?” says the retired spy as he wakes up, pistol in hand. Cat puts up her hands. Cut to commercial.
When next Cat is seen, she is sitting scrunched up inside a small closet. Her bondage is only implied (hands out of sight behind the back, feet below the camera frame). The only evidence of bondage is a cloth around her neck, suggesting an OTM she has just shaken loose. As she contacts the team by personal radio, Miles jumps in and suggests that they all meet.

Title: Gilligan's Island Episode: "The Kidnapper" (3.11) Damsel: Natalie Schaefer
A kidnapper is loose on the island! Mrs. Howell (Natalie Schaefer) is the first to be snatched. After a ransom is paid, she is set free. The other castaways find her sitting on a large rock, hands tied behind, blindfolded & OTM-gagged.
Mary Ann is abducted next, followed by Ginger. But their bondage is never shown, just described later after they are ransomed and returned (what a missed opportunity!). The kidnapper (Don Rickles) is caught before the end of the first act.

Title: Star Trek (1966) Episode: "Gamesters of Triskelion" (2.16) Damsel: Nichelle Nichols
The episode begins with Kirk, Chekov, and Uhura (Nichelle Nichols) being transported across the galaxy to the planet Triskelion, where they will be trained for gladiatorial combat. After they are captured and welcomed, they are made to stand with their backs to a wall and their hands secured over their heads while they are fitted with shock-collars. The bondage lasts for only a few seconds. But while it lasts, Uhura’s hands are secured, and well away from those two great big, beautiful scoops of chocolate ice cream.

Title: Charlie's Angels (2011) Episode: "Angel with a Broken Wing" (1.01) Damsel: Aubrey Peeples
In the opening minutes of the pilot episode of this short-lived re-boot attempt, the Angels rescue an unnamed kidnapped girl (Aubrey Peeples). She is found tied with plasticuffs (hands behind, ankles bound) and cleave-gagged. When she is freed, she asks if her rescuers are police, which gives the series leads an opportunity to reply, “No, we’re Angels.”

Title: Criminal Minds Episode: "Charm and Harm" (1.20) Damsel: Meegan Godfrey
At the beginning of the episode a psycho is dining with his “date” (Meegan Godfrey). She is bound to a chair, ropes around her upper body, and silenced with a blue cloth cleave.

Title: MacGyver (2016) Episode: "Matty + Ethan + Fidelity" (3.10) Damsel: Meredith Eaton
The first act begins with a flashback from twelve years earlier. CIA agent Ethan Raines (Brendan Hines) shoots his way into a villains’ nest to rescue his fellow CIA agent Matilda “Matty” Webber (Meredith Eaton). She is sitting on an end table, her hands tied in front and a black hood over her head. Ethan pulls off the hood – and a romance starts.

flash5lk
Monday June 17 17:57:49 2019
Tiny Damsels
Wasn't that an Elton John song? Never mind...

Watching Florence Pugh in The Little Drummer Girl made me wonder if not just her but other short but extremely cute actresses (5 feet or under tall) have gotten the full treatment.

The only one that comes immediately to mind is Jody Ray in "Little Girl... Big Tease", can anyone think of anyone else, particularly Florence? I also wonder about Natasha Lyonne outside of the two weak scenes noted in the database.
Tom
Monday June 17 18:12:23 2019
Re: Tiny Damsels
> other short but extremely cute actresses (5 feet or under tall) have gotten the full treatment.
~~~~
Kristin Chenoweth is listed at 4'11", and has two B&g scenes in the Scene Database.

A number of well-known actresses and singer/actresses are listed at 5'1", so just missed being considered.
J.T.
Monday June 17 18:19:19 2019
Re: Tiny Damsels
Haven't seen The Little Drummer Girl does Florence Pugh get a full treatment scene? She is gorgeous
Monday June 17 18:33:46 2019
Re: Depend commercial
This post was deleted.

Poster: (unsigned poster)
Reason: Non-productive. See FAQ 1.14.
The Moderator
Monday June 17 18:43:28 2019
Re: Depend commercial
On June 17 2019 The Moderator wrote:

> This post was deleted.
> Poster: (unsigned poster)
> Reason: Non-productive. See FAQ 1.14.

I apologize. I thought it was funny, but deep down, I knew that my comment would get the hatchet.
Monday June 17 18:49:50 2019
Re: Kidnapping Stella
It's been ten years since The Disappearance Of Alice Creed first graced us with its presence. Three remakes in ten years, remarkable really. Here's to three more in the next ten!
Monday June 17 20:26:18 2019
Re: Tiny Damsels
Doubt if there's a scene for Florence in Little Drummer Girl judging from the plot synopsis it'll have putz action if any. Have seen a screencap of Florence rope-bound to a chair in ghost-flick Malevolent doesn't appear to be a gag. Maybe someone who's seen that film can elaborate. Florence will probably get a great f/t scene eventually she seems drawn to edgier roles. Reminds me of a young Kate Winslet. Lovely face and figure even if she is only 3 foot six or whatever ;)
Monday June 17 20:34:14 2019
Re: Alice Creed vs The Fan Club
Shame they didn't do a film version of The Fan Club in the Seventies or early Eighties sensibilities were a lot more liberal in those times e.g. on-screen nudity etc. I think filmmakers today would baulk at a plot concerning a woman "kidnapped for sex". That was not a factor in Creed or its remakes
Monday June 17 22:56:25 2019
Re: Alice Creed vs The Fan Club
On June 17 2019 (unsigned poster) wrote:

> Shame they didn't do a film version of The Fan Club in
> the Seventies or early Eighties

Long ago ('80s or very early '90s) There was actually a pretty interesting article in Film Comment magazine about instances where Hollywood studios ponied up big bucks for the movie rights to bestselling novels... but then the movie never got actually made for various legal, creative, or budgetary reason. One of the novels they discussed was, you guessed it, The Fan Club. According to the article, the studio bought the rights with the plan that the film would star a "Big name" actress (Who would be playing basically a thinly veiled version of herself) but then every A-Lister approached turned it down due to the rape scene and the book's general salaciousness.

Parvel

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