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Wednesday July 31 00:37:23 2019
Re: Beowulf scene with Holly Earl
On July 30 2019 (unsigned poster) wrote:

> What is this show? Never heard of it. It doesn't seem to
> be on network TV....Is it some kind of internet show?

It's a UK series.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf:_Return_to_the_Shieldlands
Brian R
Wednesday July 31 02:45:38 2019
Re: Best "spread eagle" scene
On July 30 2019 (unsigned poster) wrote:

> So what are some other great spread eagle
> scenes? Gag would be preferable

Here are a few examples:

Title: Rizzoli and Isles Episode: "Crazy for You" (3.07) Damsel: Angie Harmon
A delusional man (who believes Det, Jane Rizzoli (Angie Harmon) to be his wife) renders her unconscious. When she comes to, she is lying supine on his bed in a full spread eagle (handcuffs at the wrists, ropes at the ankles). There she will stay for the last thirty minutes of the episode. Fortunately, the doofus puts the scene on live Webcam, which enables her friends back at the station to use their computer wizardry to locate her. Only two things mar the scene: a) no gag; and b) fully clothed (not even naked under a blanket).
Special note: For the sake of continuity, Miss Harmon had to stay tied up for the entire eight hours it took to film the half-hour’s worth of bondage airtime. Sometimes, we just don’t appreciate how much these young beauties endure to arouse our fantasies.

Title: Hardware Episode: "Bondage" (1.03) Damsel: Susan Earl
In this short-lived (2003-2004) British comedy series, a pre-Hobbit Martin Freeman stars as Mike, a young man who works in a hardware store (just like the series title says). One day, his live-in girlfriend Anne (Susan Earl) declares, from completely out of the blue, that she’d rather fancy being tied up (just like the episode title says).
So saying, Mike heads for his place of employ to get the necessary equipment. In the end, Susan is lying on her back in their bed. Her arms are tethered separately with rope to either corner of the headboard to form a standard upper-body spreadeagle. But her legs have been rigged to a ridiculously complex system of ropes, directional sheaves, and pulley blocks that enables Mike to position her legs at any angle he wishes and from a central location to boot. The setup is so over the top that it kills the romantic mood – and she demands to be released.

Title: Girls Are For Loving (1973) Damsels: Cheri Caffaro, Jocelyn Peters aka Sheila Leighton
Two spreadeagles in this one. Ginger McAllister (Cheri Caffaro) is lying naked spreadeagled on a bed, her wrists and ankles bound with leather straps. For most of the next five minutes, a bad guy has his way with her.
Later, Ginger catches bad girl Ronnie St. Clair (Jocelyn Peters aka Sheila Leighton), strips her naked, and ties her spreadeagled onto a bed, her wrists and ankles bound with leather straps. This time it's one of the good guys who has his way with her.

Title: Acapulco H.E.A.T. Episode: "Code Name: Cult Zero" (2.19) Damsels: Alison Armitage, Lydie Denier
Two spreadeagles in this one as well. H.E.A.T. agents Cat Pascal (Alison Armitage) and Nicole Bernard (Lydie Denier) are tied full spreadeagle to adjacent beds with silk scarfs and OTM gagged with a black cloth each. Before they free themselves there is a good mix of struggling, mmmphhing, close-ups, and panning shots.

Title: The Avengers (1961) Episode: "The Gravediggers" (4.2) Damsel: Diana Rigg
Mrs. Emma Peel (Diana Rigg) investigates a wealthy man who owns a large estate complete with its own railway system. It is to these tracks that Emma is tied. Because the train is of a reduced scale, such as one might see at an amusement park, she is not laid across the tracks in the usual manner, but instead parallel to them, her head facing the approaching train. Her arms are above her head and bound separately to either track. Her legs are bound likewise so as to form a modified full spreadeagle. She is silenced by means of a two-piece gag (mouth packing secured with a gauze bandage overwrap). While she struggles, John Steed races to the rescue amidst the sounds of vintage Nickelodeon music.

Title: The Long Kiss Goodnight (1996) Damsel: Geena Davis
Samantha (Geena Davis) is KO’d with a punch, and wakes up tied in a vertical spreadeagle position to the paddles of a water wheel in an old mill. As the wheel turns, she is repeatedly dunked into the cold water as a form of torture.

Title: Get Smart (1965) Episode: "Appointment in Sahara" (2.26) Damsel: Barbara Feldon
Maxwell Smart and Agent 99 (Barbara Feldon), while searching for a nuclear missile in the Sahara desert, are captured by KAOS and staked out supine on the ground in full spreadeagles to die slowly in the heat. They are freed by a harem girl.

Title: Wonder Woman Episode: "The Murderous Missile" (2.22) Damsel: Lynda Carter
Wonder Woman ( Lynda Carter) is rendered unconscious by means of knockout gas. She wakes up in a jail cell, lying supine, and chained into a full spreadeagle. She breaks free when she comes to.

Title: Bronco Billy (1980) Damsels: Tessa Richarde, Sondra Locke
At 12 and 45 minutes respectively, Mitzi Fritts (Tessa Richarde) and later Antoinette Lily (Sondra Locke) are strapped spreadeagle to a rotating wheel as part of the circus knife-throwing act (Antoinette got her big break when Mitzi was nicked by a thrown knife, prompting her to consider other career options).

Title: Cat People (1982) Damsel: Nastassja Kinski
Saved best for last.
In order to have consensual sex with cat person Nastassja Kinski safely (and I do mean safely), her lover has to secure her limbs in a full supine spreadeagle.
flash5lk
Wednesday July 31 07:17:37 2019
On screen gagging
What are some of the best scenes where the actress is gagged in screen?
Wednesday July 31 09:26:05 2019
On screen gagging
Was just reminded of Okavango over on the Video Page. Short but incredibly sweet. Connie Nielsen and Michelle Scarabelli properly gagged with wide microfoam tape stretched tightly over their lips. Creating perfect outlines. Just beautiful.
Wednesday July 31 09:26:54 2019
Possible Scenes in Upcoming Korean Dramas
It's been a little dry in terms of Asian scenes here recently, so Imma list some possible scenes in upcoming K-dramas since there's a good flow of popular idols acting in recent dramas.

A solid rule for Korean DID scenes is basically having the concept of the show either being traditional dynasty eras or crime. I'd say a good 50% chance there'd be a DID scene if a show falls under these categories.

Very possible:

Rookie Historian Goo Hae Ryung (Ongoing, 32 eps) - Shin Se Kyung

IMO, the prettiest Korean actress. She has had a few scenes before this provided by wudixiao. Already gets a handgag in this show.

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/b8aba20c-8c3b-4a2f-863b-aa20d716589b/dabxtev-72726c6f-d131-433b-81b9-09beec27999c.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcL2I4YWJhMjBjLThjM2ItNGEyZi04NjNiLWFhMjBkNzE2NTg5YlwvZGFieHRldi03MjcyNmM2Zi1kMTMxLTQzM2ItODFiOS0wOWJlZWMyNzk5OWMuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.A8tdwTWuim935uoRWHT-8mzY4Ly_s_t_It16H33SsbU

Justice (Ongoing, 32 eps) - Nana

A popular idol who was a 2-time 'Prettiest Face in the World' by TC Candler. She recently started acting and has been in 2 crime shows, the first not having any DID scenes. She ain't gonna escape another, is she? :/

https://www.allkpop.com/upload/2018/12/content/210709/20181221-nanajpg.jpg

My Country (Oct, 20 eps) - Kim Sul Hyun (AOA)

The consensus prettiest idol currently, BY FAR. She's a beauty. And has had a really really good scene awhile back.

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/b8aba20c-8c3b-4a2f-863b-aa20d716589b/dbt59nz-a6e7b348-7a12-490e-ba17-4782c267e5e2.jpg/v1/fill/w_1024,h_604,q_75,strp/kim_seolhyun_by_wudixiao_dbt59nz-fullview.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9NjA0IiwicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvYjhhYmEyMGMtOGMzYi00YTJmLTg2M2ItYWEyMGQ3MTY1ODliXC9kYnQ1OW56LWE2ZTdiMzQ4LTdhMTItNDkwZS1iYTE3LTQ3ODJjMjY3ZTVlMi5qcGciLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9MTAyNCJ9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl19.Dqe6HHl6uPh0SmA1kvR8w2xdpaAMUv9ZWjO7tZ_kKNk

Vagabond (Sept, 48 eps) - Bae Suzy (Miss A)

Another idol popular for her beauty. She has had a quality scene before this, and a few handgag scenes. Ironically or unironically, her co-star of this show is the same co-star she had in her DID scene.

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/b8aba20c-8c3b-4a2f-863b-aa20d716589b/dad83vt-a85da853-326f-4283-ac53-f74bd12141f6.jpg/v1/fill/w_1024,h_788,q_75,strp/bae_suzy_by_wudixiao_dad83vt-fullview.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9Nzg4IiwicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvYjhhYmEyMGMtOGMzYi00YTJmLTg2M2ItYWEyMGQ3MTY1ODliXC9kYWQ4M3Z0LWE4NWRhODUzLTMyNmYtNDI4My1hYzUzLWY3NGJkMTIxNDFmNi5qcGciLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9MTAyNCJ9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl19.CIMPsmkYeSoTx_1v_uZgzsF4dC4L_JuSlZa9_KtCSmc

Mung Bean Chronicles (Sept) - Kim So Hyun

IMO, the prettiest rising actress. She had a gaggeed scene before this, a few tie-up scenes and a handgag scene, but nothing significant. According to the webtoon this drama is influenced by, she would have at least a handgag scene.

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/b8aba20c-8c3b-4a2f-863b-aa20d716589b/daipumc-a615be76-7921-4efa-9bd8-c276f5271af4.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcL2I4YWJhMjBjLThjM2ItNGEyZi04NjNiLWFhMjBkNzE2NTg5YlwvZGFpcHVtYy1hNjE1YmU3Ni03OTIxLTRlZmEtOWJkOC1jMjc2ZjUyNzFhZjQuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.oWYDzkujzmYfmEz3DY_F-X4i_z9iC7vD5wcIkNOn-ps

Flower Crew (Sept): Gong Seung Yeon

She has had 3 scenes already. Among them, there's quickie with Shin Se Kyung.

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/b8aba20c-8c3b-4a2f-863b-aa20d716589b/dcw7ai2-1c60bf9d-57d1-4688-af46-14ce489e7a41.jpg/v1/fill/w_1024,h_663,q_75,strp/gong_seung_yeon_2_by_wudixiao_dcw7ai2-fullview.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9NjYzIiwicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvYjhhYmEyMGMtOGMzYi00YTJmLTg2M2ItYWEyMGQ3MTY1ODliXC9kY3c3YWkyLTFjNjBiZjlkLTU3ZDEtNDY4OC1hZjQ2LTE0Y2U0ODllN2E0MS5qcGciLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9MTAyNCJ9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl19.91biSI6_mArwvGgm6sJQE0cVkq1bEgoqU_nig7PiE_4

Designated Survivor: 60 days (Ongoing, 16 eps) - Kang Hanna

Had an AOH, spanking scene with IU before this.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/85/ac/b5/85acb51f00c618dc1ba3c253d3e320f1.jpg

Joseon Survival (Ongoing, 16 eps) - Kyung Soo Jin

Had 2 scenes before.

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/b8aba20c-8c3b-4a2f-863b-aa20d716589b/daq0cjz-a4dd2a73-3b5c-48ee-a551-534ecb0b1786.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcL2I4YWJhMjBjLThjM2ItNGEyZi04NjNiLWFhMjBkNzE2NTg5YlwvZGFxMGNqei1hNGRkMmE3My0zYjVjLTQ4ZWUtYTU1MS01MzRlY2IwYjE3ODYuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.1-zffxcTjuwTNfbcGCvr6bIOAhsOx3gmoxLLDbKCV2E

I categorized these scenes as 'very possible' not just due to their concepts as described before, but also the fact that all of them are the ONLY female main cast in each show, so it increases the likelihood. I mean, if there's a DID scene, it's probably them, who else? :/

Bonus, but unlikely:

Hotel Del Luna (Ongoing, 16 eps) - IU

A very popular figure in Korea. She has acted in alot of dramas, but never had a gagged scene. She had an AOH, spanking scene and a handgag scene, but nothing significant. Her role in this drama (being someone who pushes people around), means it's unlikely she'll get a scene here, but there could maybe be a twist (the pushover gets turned on her), who knows.

https://www.awesomepostersonline.com/uploads/2018-04-23/9f9b0386/4dca183e85d.jpg

Just some possible scenes to look out for!
Wednesday July 31 09:51:06 2019
Ridiculous links
What is with these loooooooong links it is stretching the page out so far I cannot read anything on my IPad. I could just barely make out the post message because I knew it was there. Whoever is doing it please stop screwing up the board!
WJ
Wednesday July 31 09:59:41 2019
Re: The 100-612
On July 30 2019 Barnes wrote:

> On July 30 2019 Gagster wrote:
> > Four DIDs tonight, (one of whom presents a numeric
> > problem. The others are Ashleigh LaThrop, Lindsey
> > Morgan, and Tati Gabrielle. Scene should pick up

> Nice to see. Only Tasha Teles still avoids the black
> cleave gag. but hey one episode left. maybe we have then
> a score for her.

From the preview, it looks like Tasya gets it next week (along with Marie, Tati and just about every other member of the cast).

https://i.imgur.com/9VJA4G7.jpg

Gagster
Wednesday July 31 11:10:00 2019
Re: The 100-612



Hell Yes. Marie again. The 100 10 Episodes in season 6 nothing and then BAM !! Best show !!!!!! And a white cleave not the typical The 100 Black cleave *smile*



Barnes
Wednesday July 31 11:58:00 2019
Re: The 100-612
On July 31 2019 Barnes wrote:

> Hell Yes. Marie again. The 100 10 Episodes in season 6
> nothing and then BAM !! Best show !!!!!! And a white
> cleave not the typical The 100 Black cleave *smile*

I honestly do not think that I have EVER seen a more prolific show for cleave gag enthusiasts than this one, especially given the relatively short time the show has been on. I don't even mind the occasional putz interference at all!! :-)
It's really kinda crazy...
JP
japfeif@aol.com
Wednesday July 31 13:01:24 2019
Re: Ridiculous links
On July 31 2019 WJ wrote:

> What is with these loooooooong links it is stretching the
> page out so far I cannot read anything on my IPad.

I hear you. Sometimes URLs are as long as they are.

I need to work on another upgrade to the link system.

The Engineer
Wednesday July 31 14:55:48 2019
Re: The 100-612
On July 31 2019 Barnes wrote:

> Hell Yes. Marie again. The 100 10 Episodes in season 6
> nothing and then BAM !!

Now, that's not exactly fair. By this point Echo had already given that henchwoman a black cleave and there was the medical bit gag flashback, even if those didn't feature main characters.
Wednesday July 31 15:00:10 2019
Blue-eyed damsels
I've always loved a good scene with a blue-eyed damsel.
Karen Allen in RotLA, Lynda Carter's Wonder Woman scenes, Barbara Crampton in Bold and the Beautiful - yum!

What are some others, handgags included?
KJ
Wednesday July 31 15:39:55 2019
Tightest/thickest/most effective OTM gags ever?
It's all in the title. Nothing more pleasing to the eye for me.
Beethofun
Wednesday July 31 15:50:08 2019
Re: Blue-eyed damsels
Terry Farrell in her classic Hellraiser III scene comes to mind. Her blue eyes are still visible in the scene despite the dark lighting. And not exactly a DID scene, but her eyes are as clear and blue as the sky in her No H8 photoshoot from a few years back.

http://www.noh8campaign.com/photo_galleries/174/19904_medium.jpg
Wednesday July 31 15:51:33 2019
Re: On screen gagging
Natasha Henstridge in Caracara is an excellent one. You actually see it being secured to her mouth and lips to boot and not just simply slapped on. Very good attention to detail in that scene that sells the effectiveness of the duct tape over her mouth.
Wednesday July 31 15:52:44 2019
Re: Tightest/thickest/most effective OTM gags ever?
If Terry Farrell in Hellraiser III counts, then that for sure with the leather mask/muzzle. Probably one of the most genuinely tight-fitting gags ever and completely convincing.
Wednesday July 31 16:34:56 2019
Re: Blue-eyed damsels
On July 31 2019 KJ wrote:

> I've always loved a good scene with a blue-eyed damsel.
> What are some others, handgags included?

My favorite blue-eyed damsel is Heather Locklear, who has got to be one of the most beautiful women who has ever lived (at least until she messed herself up with drugs and alcohol). 14 live-action scenes for this blonde-haired, blue-eyed damsel, according to the database. The T.J. Hooker episode "The Obsession" (5.09) features a head shot of gorgeous Heather sporting a thick white cloth cleave and those beautiful china-blue eyes.
flash5lk
Wednesday July 31 16:35:06 2019
Re: On screen gagging
Lynn Herrin, F/F scene with triple-cleave

http://i.imgur.com/zXjQqcY.png

Wednesday July 31 16:44:16 2019
Re: Blue-eyed damsels
On July 31 2019 flash5lk wrote:

> On July 31 2019 KJ wrote:
> > I've always loved a good scene with a blue-eyed
> damsel.
> > What are some others, handgags included?
> My favorite blue-eyed damsel is Heather Locklear, The T.J. Hooker episode "The Obsession" (5.09) features a head shot of gorgeous > Heather sporting a thick white cloth cleave and those beautiful china-blue eyes.

Forgot to mention. Another T.J. Hooker episode, "Trackdown" (4.13) also has a close head shot of Heather blue-eyes, this time sporting a gag of white adhesive tape.
flash5lk
Wednesday July 31 16:45:00 2019
Re: Blue-eyed damsels
Also forgot Cameron Diaz in A Life Less Ordinary. Blue eyes very visible in that scene with her excellent gagged expressions and emoting.
Wednesday July 31 18:41:58 2019
Re: Tightest/thickest/most effective OTM gags ever?
Tina Russell from Family Affairs, gag appears to be so tight that her cheeks bulge a bit.
Wednesday July 31 18:57:26 2019
Re: Blue-eyed damsels
Blue eyes have GOT to be my biggest weakness!

Snowcat
Wednesday July 31 21:34:52 2019
Re: On screen gagging
> What are some of the best scenes where the actress is gagged in screen?
~~~~
Among the criteria (purely subjective) I used for my favorite scenes:

* Damsel's attractiveness
* Build-up to the gagging
* Villain's gloating before or after

* Blue-eyed Lynda Carter in Wonder Woman ("The Starships Are Coming"; 2.15).
* Stepfanie Kramer in Hunter "Night of the Dragons"; 2.2).
* Yvonne Craig in Batman ("Catwoman's Dressed to Kill"; 3.14). "Crime-fightresses should be seen, and not heard."

My favorite: Blue-eyed Sedona Legge in "Web Cam Girls" (2017).

J.T.
Wednesday July 31 22:15:56 2019
Re: On screen gagging
Another excellent one I forgot before is Sonya Walger in The Mousetrap from the second season of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. I particularly like how she pleads not to be gagged by pleading "Please don't tape my mouth, I won't scream" right as she's gagged.
Wednesday July 31 23:19:35 2019
Re: On screen gagging


--> for sure killer blue-eyes Alexandra Daddario in Texas Chainsaw. Best eyes in the business.
Barnes

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