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Tuesday August 27 00:07:13 2019
Re: Mainstream Scenes
On August 26 2019 IntotheAbyss wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
> Just curious about what makes mainstream scenes more
> desirable to you all than commercial scenes?

Commercial videos have the advantage (in addition to unclothed models) of employing experienced riggers that actually know how to tie up a girl so that she stays in one place. Ironically, that is part of the problem. With the female effectively restrained, there’s not a lot of movement. You might as well be reading a bondage magazine.

Mainstream scenes are so much better. Though the bondage may range from very effective to rather sloppy, the real electricity comes from the perilous situation (commercial bondage videos have little to no plot), with the payoff of watching the hero rescue the bound and gagged girl from the villain’s clutches, thereby completing the hero’s objectives (defeat the villain/rescue the girl/save the world). As someone else long ago noted, this hero/damsel/villain conflict is one of the oldest forms of melodrama, but one that can withstand an “infinity of re-tellings”.

Give me mainstream every time.
flash5lk
Tuesday August 27 00:09:56 2019
Re: Mainstream Scenes
Another obvious advantage mainstream scenes have over the commercial ones for me is seeing attractive actresses bound and gagged, and more often than not their acting talents aid the scenes immensely.
Tuesday August 27 01:51:54 2019
Re: Mainstream Scenes
On August 27 2019 (unsigned poster) wrote:

I guess for me it's mostly the weeks, months, years hoping that an actress will have a scene, and enduring all the disappointments. Of course sometimes you never get what you want, but welcome to the world.
BTW, my own opinion is that some of the commercial bondage models are very good actresses. But there's almost never any set-up to their scenes and so no anticipation. Generally they are knocked out and/or tied up right from the beginning. It's just a different animal.


Tuesday August 27 06:06:04 2019
Gagged with a rubber ball (not ball-gag)
Any scenes where a damsels gets gagged with a rubber ball in her mouth? Thanks for help.
Tuesday August 27 07:13:45 2019
Re: Gagged with a rubber ball (not ball-gag)
> scenes where a damsels gets gagged with a rubber ball in her mouth?
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"A Clockwork Orange" (1971) with a red rubber ball and wraparound clear tape.

J.T.
Tuesday August 27 09:43:07 2019
Re: Gagged with a rubber ball (not ball-gag)
On August 27 2019 (unsigned poster) wrote:

> Any scenes where a damsels gets gagged with a rubber ball
> in her mouth? Thanks for help.

Not rubber, but Siow Li Xuan is gagged with a ping-pong ball shoved in her mouth and an OTM on top, in Mrs. K.

Vid link will be posted on vid page.
Tuesday August 27 11:24:45 2019
The Mandalorian 2019
This upcoming live-action Star Wars tv series has real potential for a scene or two. Whether it's damsels the bounty hunter is hired to rescue or damsels he's hired to capture. Trailer recently released looks fantastic. Gritty, Western-like. Star Wars for Grown-ups :)
Tuesday August 27 11:37:06 2019
Re: Gagged with a rubber ball (not ball-gag)
On August 27 2019 (unsigned poster) wrote:

> Any scenes where a damsels gets gagged with a rubber ball
> in her mouth? Thanks for help.

Ballgags are extremely rare in mainstream media (the Database has only 123 tagged entries out of nearly 25,000 entries). Loose balls in the mouth are rarer still. But there are a few. Besides those already mentioned, we have:

Title: California Roll (1995) aka Yakuza Connection Damsel: J. Cynthia Brooks
Audry Cheeters (J. Cynthia Brooks), the wife of a professional golfer, is kidnapped, handcuffed (in front) to a pipe, and gagged with (what else?) a golf ball in her mouth served over with tape.

Title: Da Vinci's Inquest Episode: "Reality" (2.13) Damsel: Cyndi Mason
Lana (Cyndi Mason) is bound on the floor (hands behind) and gagged with a racket ball. Just as it is about to be secured with tape, the police burst in.

This next one is played for laughs, but it is worthy of honorable mention.

Title: Get Smart (1965) Episode: "Our Man in Toyland" (1.04) Damsel: Helen Kleeb
Maxwell Smart and Agent 99 (Barbara Feldon) are unarmed and trapped inside a department store. Hunted by three armed KAOS agents, they fight back with the only weapons they can get their hands on – children’s toys!
Agent 99 fires a popgun – and sends a plastic ball straight into the mouth of KAOS Agent Frieda (Helen Kleeb).
Even though this is a faux gag and not intended as a means of silencing her, it is quite probably the first time in the history of American television that a woman is shown getting a ball in her mouth in any context (interesting, isn’t it, that of the three KAOS agents, it is the female agent who gets the ball-in-the-mouth?).
flash5lk
Tuesday August 27 19:48:54 2019
Re: Gagged with a rubber ball (not ball-gag)
Loose or "free" ball gags as I've heard them called certainly are rare in mainstream. I thought lovely blonde Rena Niehaus got one in 1976 film La Orca but on revisiting her scene on utoobe turns out she was gagged with a large wad of cloth and a strip of tape so the memory plays tricks. Helluva scene though with great on-screen gagging and un-gagging. The only other actual example I recall(besides Clockwork Orange - definitely the most famous mainstream example)is in Thunderbolt and Lightfoot where various people including cute Leslie Oliver are gagged with bright red balls(could be plastic or rubber)and white tape. Early Seventies bondage mags from Harmony publishing etc were very fond of free ball gags as I recall and often showed pictures of nubile lasses getting balls placed in their mouths followed by wide tape gags or tight otm's so I've always been very fond of this gagging method. Shame it's very rare in mainstream but producers are probably worried about choking hazards which reminds me of the sad outcome for the girl in the film Jawbreaker
Tuesday August 27 23:04:09 2019
Ready or Not panel gagged scene
Samara Weaving gets a panel gag with a LOT of gagtalk. Also some wonderfully semi gratuitous handgagging. Also a great flick.
madtaper
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Tuesday August 27 23:05:00 2019
Re: Gagged with a rubber ball (not ball-gag )
In the old series Profiler episode "Film at Eleven" former athlete Sherri Howard is gagged with a yellow ball sealed with clear tape and bound in an elaborate death-trap tie. Short scene but always stuck in my head due to the unique gag
Tuesday August 27 23:09:26 2019
Re: Ready or not panel gagged scene
Sounds great can't wait to see this film asap. Should provide plenty of screen-caps. Samara is so damn cute - a classic Damsel in Distress

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