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This page is for posting links to online streaming video, Youtube and things like that. The rules are somewhat looser than Discussion. You can post and discuss mainstream and related amateur video. Do not post clips from commercial videos. It's usually not that hard to tell the difference.
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| Sunday January 10 02:02:11 2016 Re: Google drive storage of videos |
| Raffish wrote: > home on Mega for now). That archive, which contains 500+ > clips at the moment, is syncing now and should be done > within 24 hours. Once that's done, I'll start syncing > Sam's much larger archive, which will probably take at > least a few days. Wow..thanks - you are being very generous to the community. > I propose a standard description format that looks > something like this: > Series: 24 > Episode: "11:00 p.m. - 12:00 a.m." (S01E24) > [2002] > Actress: Leslie Hope > Country: USA > Keywords: tape gag, rope, hands behind, chair, onscreen > gagging, f/f, death > Contributor: toadbutts Call me lazy, but why not just copy/paste the DB entry into the description? It's a nice redundancy in case something ever happens to the database, plus makes for searching a breeze. Ideally, of course, it would be doubly indexed: in the spreadsheet and in the description permitting for easy search in either direction. I think the descriptions in the DB pair nicely with the video. In some way, actually, it resembles the "descriptive video service" used for vision impaired folks where a narrator describes what's happening (speaking of which would be interesting to see the description of known bondage scenes). Someday someone will have to write a scrapper to go through the DVS and find scenes that way - someone is already using it for searching video scenes using descriptive language published as a research article in computer science. |
| Nicholas Nickleby |
| Sunday January 10 06:45:42 2016 Re: Google drive storage of videos |
| Nicholas Nickleby wrote: > Wow..thanks - you are being very generous to the > community. Nah...this part's easy, and cheap, and lets me see all those great scenes too. (And especially if I can get some help with the uploading and description editing, it'll be less work for me than trying to maintain those massive spreadsheets, which can now be deemphasized a bit.) > Call me lazy, but why not just copy/paste the DB entry > into the description? It's a nice redundancy in case > something ever happens to the database, plus makes for > searching a breeze. Sure, why not. There are a couple issues that make it less than a complete solution, but we can work around them. 1) I want some metadata in there that isn't (or can't be) in the DB, including countries of origin, contributors, and especially keywords. No problem, since those three fields can simply be tacked on at the end. And since it will take some time to generate them, at least we'll have something to search on in the meantime. This should also encourage folks to add DB entries, since of course not all of the clipped scenes have them. 2) There's no automatic way to keep the DB and the descriptions in sync when the former is updated. The workaround here would be to track which DB entries are changed, and manually update them in the descriptions every month or so. (If the Engineer doesn't already have a way for us to do this, I should be able to code one up easily enough, simply by downloading the full DB every month as a flat file and running a diff.) I don't think there's a practical way to sync in the opposite direction, so we'd just need to encourage people to make their changes to the DB first, which is what they should be doing anyway. |
| Raffish |
| Sunday January 10 07:10:11 2016 Re: Google drive storage of videos |
| Almost forgot...here's the new link to the top level of the Drive archive, which contains three subdirectories: Dropbox: Assuming I've set this up correctly, anyone with the link should be able to add clips and edit descriptions here, and I'd like to encourage everyone who posts clips to Video to do so. (At least for now, I'll continue to monitor Video for clips to be added, but this will save me some work.) If all goes well, this should be a bit more reliable than, say, sendspace! Community: Once the filenames and descriptions of clips in the Dropbox have been checked for consistency, they'll be moved here, where they'll be protected from editing or deletion by anyone except editors. All of my new clips will end up here as well. Sam: Sam's archive is massive and subdivided by resolution/source, so he gets his own directory, which is syncing now and should be done by next week if we're lucky. ;) |
| Raffish |
| https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4u3brXcKItMdkR6bGNsR0NtYk0 |
| Sunday January 10 10:42:09 2016 Re: Google drive storage of videos |
| Raffish wrote: > Sam: Sam's archive is massive and subdivided by > resolution/source, so he gets his own directory My, don't I feel special. ;-) Is the uploading routine going to remain the same, in that I simply upload to Dropbox when I have a new batch of edits, after which you shunt them to Mega or (as of now) elsewhere? It's unlikely that I'll ever have floods of new clips again, but the renaming/deletion/replacing routine will always be ongoing as I come up with upgrades or update filenames. I keep seeing corrections needed to filenames almost daily, and one thing I wish to unify is the "(part xxx)" suffix which is all over the place. |
| Sam |
| Sunday January 10 11:03:39 2016 Re: Google drive storage of videos |
| Raffish wrote: > Dropbox: Assuming I've set this up correctly, anyone with > the link should be able to add clips and edit > descriptions here, and I'd like to encourage everyone who > posts clips to Video to do so. (At least for now, I'll > continue to monitor Video for clips to be added, but this > will save me some work.) If all goes well, this should be > a bit more reliable than, say, sendspace! I just realized in regards to "editing" descriptions. Since copies are cheap, people can just "copy" an existing video in the "Community" folder (counts temporarily against their quota), edit the description, and then copy it again into the dropbox. Note that while in the dropbox, it will still count against their quota. Once the submission is reviewed and edited, it can be copied back into the Community folder and then the person who submitted it can delete it so it won't count anymore against their quota (note they'll have to manually empty the trash to really get it off their quota since it was shared and therefore 'accessible by collaborators' until its removed from the trash). As a test case, I've added the database description for "Kung Fu Cannials" and added prefix 'NN' to avoid confusion with the original. Then again, maybe easier for administrator to just copy/paste the description rather than move things around as the video file didn't change. In fact, easier still would be simple text file or spreadsheet with filename, description pairs. |
| Nicholas Nickleby |
| Sunday January 10 11:06:48 2016 Re: 5th Wave |
| Thanks buddy! Yes, certainly some interest! |
| KJ |
| Sunday January 10 11:18:58 2016 Re: Google drive storage of videos |
| Sam wrote: > Is the uploading routine going to remain the same, in > that I simply upload to Dropbox when I have a new batch > of edits, after which you shunt them to Mega or (as of > now) elsewhere? No, actually I think this'll get easier for both of us: I'll just give you full access to your directory, and you can upload the new clips and make any filename changes yourself. I'm planning to shut down your part of the Mega archive once Drive is done syncing, and once you've had a chance to update the directory links on Rob's. (If my understanding is correct, you'll be able to view those links directly once I give you explicit access, but I can send them to you if not.) As with the Community folder, it would be nice if we could get descriptions and keywords in there eventually -- I've barely added any keywords for your clips, even in the FBT sheets -- and maybe we can get some help with that. I was also going to suggest a flatter file structure for your online archive, maybe with filename extensions instead of subdirectories to indicate quality/source. (I could add these for the existing files if that would help.) That would make the archive easier to browse, as we were discussing offline -- though now that we should have a pretty good search capability as well, it should be less of an issue. |
| Raffish |
| Sunday January 10 11:29:41 2016 Re: Google drive storage of videos |
| Nicholas Nickleby wrote: > I just realized in regards to "editing" > descriptions. Since copies are cheap, people can just > "copy" an existing video in the > "Community" folder (counts temporarily against > their quota), edit the description, and then copy it > again into the dropbox. > Then again, maybe > easier for administrator to just copy/paste the > description rather than move things around as the video > file didn't change. Yeah. The copy-edit-redrop idea is a cool idea, and it's fine with me if casual users want to do that occasionally, though I also think it makes sense for anyone who wants to be a rockstar and edit descriptions/keywords on a regular basis to simply contact me for full access. Less work for everyone that way in the long run. > In fact, easier still would be simple text file or > spreadsheet with filename, description pairs. Seems like this would make editing a bit simpler but actually using the archive harder. I'd say we should stick with attaching the descriptions directly to the clips. |
| Raffish |
| Sunday January 10 12:24:58 2016 Re: Google drive storage of videos |
| This is starting clog up the forum. |
| The Moderator |
| Sunday January 10 13:11:20 2016 Re: Google drive storage of videos |
| The Moderator wrote: > This is starting clog up the forum. I'd argue that a solution that should make it *much* easier for people to share and locate clips is worth a few days of "clogging." Nicholas or I could just come up with an approach and toss it out there, but a bit of back-and-forth has already made that approach better. Fortunately, I think we're pretty much done working out the details. |
| Raffish |
| Sunday January 10 13:37:20 2016 I Saw the Devil (2010) |
| Here's an HD clip from the critically acclaimed but extremely violent South Korean thriller "Ang-ma-reul bo-at-da" aka "I Saw the Devil," which isn't in the database yet, though I'll try to get to that. There are a few other scenes in the movie, mostly very short, but this is the only one with a gag and pretty much the only one that doesn't end with a lot of gore. Minor character, actress unknown. |
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| Raffish |
| https://mega.nz/#!6VFjTIoC!hwdMjoFLLHFlKKMKsbZLll4wqVNGWZowp7IwMVcey0A |
| Sunday January 10 16:23:29 2016 Re: Google drive storage of videos |
| > I'd argue that a solution that should make it *much* > easier for people to share and locate clips is worth a > few days of "clogging." I'd have to agree. I'd been looking for Jean Bruce Scott's "St. Elsewhere" scene, along with a decent cut of Lynda Carter & Loni Anderson's "Partners in Crime" scene, for AGES, and found both through Raffish's MEGA archive. Something like what he's discussed here would make finding scenes MUCH easier, IMNSHO. |
| Robert Nielsen |
| robertwnielsen@q.com |
| Sunday January 10 16:39:18 2016 Re: Google drive storage of videos |
| The Moderator wrote: > This is starting clog up the forum. Sorry if you don't like the way things are heading Mr Moderator, but Raffish's return has brought a breath of fresh air to this forum. |
| Sunday January 10 17:13:02 2016 Re: Google drive storage of videos |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > The Moderator wrote: > > This is starting clog up the forum. > Sorry if you don't like the way things are heading Mr > Moderator, but Raffish's return has brought a breath of > fresh air to this forum. Seriously? Don't antagonize the guy. It's his site, his home. You wouldn't go into someone's house and make snide comments like that. Or maybe you would, but it would make you a terrible person. I mean, the Drive idea is good, but the Video Page probably isn't the best place to discuss it. |
| Sunday January 10 21:07:54 2016 Re: Google drive storage of videos |
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| Sunday January 10 21:08:03 2016 Re: Google drive storage of videos |
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| Sunday January 10 21:08:11 2016 Re: Google drive storage of videos |
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| Sunday January 10 21:08:18 2016 Re: Google drive storage of videos |
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| Sunday January 10 21:08:28 2016 Re: Google drive storage of videos |
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| Sunday January 10 21:10:39 2016 Re: Google drive storage of videos |
| Raffish wrote: > I'd argue that a solution that should make it *much* > easier for people to share and locate clips is worth a > few days of "clogging." I have only seen two involved in the discussion, so it could be taken off-line for the initial phase. At a minimum, start trimming quotes much more significantly. Some of these have seemed rather chatty. I haven't forbidden anything, yet. |
| The Moderator |
| Sunday January 10 21:39:18 2016 Re: Google drive storage of videos |
| The Moderator wrote: > I have only seen two involved in the discussion, so it > could be taken off-line for the initial phase. At a > minimum, start trimming quotes much more significantly. Will do. I wanted others to see the discussion because they may be affected by it (and might have more experience with some of the issues than Nicholas or I), but I think we're pretty much done with the "figuring stuff out" part. I'll probably have a few more announcements about things like how to submit clips to the archive anonymously, which Google Drive normally doesn't let you do, but I'll try to keep it succinct and put as many details as I can in READMEs and such. |
| Raffish |
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