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Monday March 22 08:26:44 2010
S Love
That is interesting. Are there any other movies, tv shows, or theratrical production were the Producer, writer, or director is also the female lead who gets a full treatment scene (ie the actress who gets bound and gagged, also is the one who wrote, directed, or produced the piece
Monday March 22 09:07:19 2010
Re: S Love
(unsigned poster) wrote:
> That is interesting. Are there any other movies, tv
> shows, or theratrical production were the Producer,
> writer, or director is also the female lead who gets a
> full treatment scene (ie the actress who gets bound and
> gagged, also is the one who wrote, directed, or produced the piece

If my memory serves me correctly, Victoria Principal was the director for "Blind Witness", in which she plays a home invasion victim who's bound and gagged. The dastardly villains gagged her by wrapping tape completely around her mouth.
Ms. Principal could've simply had herself gagged with a strip of duct tape, but instead chose to have packaging tape wrapped completely around her mouth. She did have her hair cut short for this movie, and this facilitated her being gagged in this manner.
Hadji
Monday March 22 09:12:40 2010
Re: S Love
Hadji wrote:

> If my memory serves me correctly, Victoria Principal was
> the director for "Blind Witness

Blind Witness was directed by some guy named Richard A. Colla.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096946/
Monday March 22 09:27:53 2010
Re: S Love
Hadji wrote:

> If my memory serves me correctly, Victoria Principal was
> the director for "Blind Witness", in which she
> plays a home invasion victim who's bound and gagged.

She was one of the executive producers, meaning she helped bankroll the filming and production. She didn't write or direct it, but she was an investor. More than likely she didn't actually pay anything and instead of getting paid during filming she got a portion of the money the movie made...
Moraxian
http://www.moraxiansgalleries.com
Monday March 22 09:31:36 2010
Self Production Tie-Ups
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> That is interesting. Are there any other movies, tv
> shows, or theratrical production were the Producer,
> writer, or director is also the female lead who gets a
> full treatment scene

Alicia Silverstone was also a producer for Excess Baggage when she was just 21. It's a comedy where she ties and gags herself with tape in the trunk of a car in order to fake her kidnapping... and then the car gets stolen....

Details here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119086/
Moraxian
http://www.moraxiansgalleries.com
Monday March 22 13:36:53 2010
Re: Self Production Tie-Ups
Halle Berry Introducing Dorothy Dandridge

TSR
Monday March 22 14:26:03 2010
The Jungle Girl and Me: My Secret Bondage Obsession
I invite everyone to visit my website to read my story, "The Jungle Girl and Me: My Secret Bondage Obsession." Basically it's a memoir devoted primarily to my two different lives, the first as a normal-appearing, respectable physician; the second as a person who has very secretively devoted a great deal of my life to a fetish centered around images and fantasies of women who are bound and gagged. In my narrative, I attempt to find answers to questions that have puzzled me for nearly my entire life: How and why did this obsession with bondage begin in me? Why me in particular? Why this fetish in particular? And why do thoughts of bondage provoke sexual arousal?

I invite any readers to e-mail their comments, and welcome anyone interested in corresponding and sharing experiences.

Frederick Reynolds
frederick09@junglegirlandme.com
http://www.junglegirlandme.com
Monday March 22 16:15:48 2010
Red White & Blue
Amanda Fuller interview:

When you're subjected to some of the film's brutality, how did it affect your performance that each segment of the film was shot from a different perspective, and in the case of some of these scenes, specifically someone else's point of view?

Fuller: I don't think anything makes that easier. You know, we shot all of that as if it was happening in real life, so regardless of thinking of it as a film or from what perspective it was, it was just like Erica in that situation. And when it comes to being hog-tied and all of that, it was difficult. After a couple of weeks of crazy shooting, exhaustion and heat, to be hog tied – have you ever been hog tied?

Thankfully no.

Fuller: Neither had I, and I was like, sure, do whatever. Because they honestly had me tied in a different way at first and they thought about it, she could get out – this isn't real. I was like, if we're going to do this, then do it right, so whatever you're going to do, do it! So they did the hog-tie thing and within a minute, your limbs go numb. Ten minutes of it, I started to think, "I'm actually in danger." So [I said], "We really need to stop and break," but the point is that by the end of that night, I really felt like I really went through that. A lot of it was taken out of the film, which I think was good because we didn't need to show too much of it, but we shot a lot of it

http://www.studioactreel.com/walloffame/amandafuller.jpg
760091
http://www.fearnet.com/news/interviews/b18498_sxsw_2010_we_talk_with_lsquored_white.html
Monday March 22 16:21:05 2010
Re: Old Spanish Movie Question
paco the bandit wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > Anyone know the name of an old Spanish movie with a
> scene
> > where a guy and girl are being led to a room by some
> bad
> > guys. They are made to strip (the woman first) and
> then
> > hog tied. There is a spider in the scene and she
> rips
> > tape off to scream at the spider.
> it sounds like the cheezy and sleazy mexican comedy
> "fuera de ropa!" (out of your clothes!). the
> vhs cover even has a comic art portrayal of the female
> lead bound and gagged.

Thanks for the suggestion. I will check it out, but I don't think this was a comedy. I had it on a compilaiton VHS tape years back I traded w/ some guy. It was old (maybe 90's). The scene seemed like a robbery of some kind and there was a putz in the scene who also gets stripped and hogtied.
Monday March 22 16:27:14 2010
Re: S Love
Moraxian wrote:

> She was one of the executive producers, meaning she
> helped bankroll the filming and production. She didn't
> write or direct it, but she was an investor.

At the risk of going slightly off-topic, but I'll be brief -- an executive producer isn't necessarily someone who puts money in. Many executive producers help the deal get done or provide creative input on casting, hiring the main crew members, etc. Some executive producers act as a "guiding hand" for the production. The titles of co-producer and associate producer are far more commonly used for investors.
Miss Cleo
Monday March 22 17:16:04 2010
Re: Red White & Blue
760091 wrote:

> Amanda Fuller interview:
> ... A lot of it was taken out of the film, which I think was good because we didn't need to show too much of it, but we shot a lot of it

I, of course, disagree completely.

Captureher
Monday March 22 17:38:00 2010
Re: Excess Baggage
Miss Cleo wrote:

> ... she notes the studio made major changes,
> as is usual for Hollywood. But what's most interesting is
> that this scene would have been much longer and more
> involved if shot as scripted. ...

Tad verbose description for the script but that's pretty much how I remember it being shot, at least for the most part. Screenplays usually give a lot of description to paint a picture in the producer & director's mind. Once interpreted it seems 'shorter' than what was written. Most of that description refers to her state of mind/frustration in trying to get free which happens in seconds not minutes. Exceptions being if the director/producer/editor feels the scene as written is too long or not relevant to the film. How different was the rest of the movie from the script? More bondage elsewhere or difference in story?

As far as women writing bondage: Not that unusual; in fact, compared to book authors I'd say they are on par with men writing about men in bondage statistically speaking. Especially when you think of "Nancy Drew" compared to "The Hardy Boys" (both had their primaries in bondage), Sweet Valley High, "Story of O", "Jupiter's Darling" (film) or as I like to refer to it "The BDSM Training of the Shrew".

Sad fact is that there are more men writers for profitable bondage potential hard core drama, action, and horror films than there are women. Could be descrimination or just that not enough women like to write within those genres outside of Kathryn Bigelow.
Captureher
Monday March 22 19:48:55 2010
Castle not Chuck
Castle is the one that had a two episode airing for last night and tonight. Didn't see last night episode so not sure if worth watching tonight at 10 on ABC
civil
Monday March 22 21:08:11 2010
Re: Castle not Chuck
civil wrote:

> Castle is the one that had a two episode airing for last
> night and tonight...>>

I see no indication of "Castle" having aired any episode Sunday night. Monday's episode is listed as "part 1 of 2," with "part 2" apparently set to air a week from tonight.
Overlooker
Monday March 22 21:17:26 2010
Re: Excess Baggage
Captureher wrote:
> As far as women writing bondage: Not that unusual; in
> fact, compared to book authors I'd say they are on par
> with men writing about men in bondage statistically
> speaking. Especially when you think of "Nancy
> Drew" compared to "The Hardy Boys" (both
> had their primaries in bondage), Sweet Valley High,
> "Story of O", "Jupiter's Darling"
> (film) or as I like to refer to it "The BDSM
> Training of the Shrew".
> Sad fact is that there are more men writers for
> profitable bondage potential hard core drama, action,
> and horror films than there are women.

The Nancy Drew mysteries were actually ghostwritten by numerous writers, nearly all of them desperate for work or a foothold in the publishing industry. I read a book a few years ago about Nancy Drew. The Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys series were the brainchild of a man whose name I forget(Edward James Stratemeyer?). Anyway, he became wealthy from the creation of these teen detectives, and his family continued to publish these series after his death.
To write these books, they hired ghostwriters, usually desperate male and female writers who wrote the mysteries using basic plot outlines as templates. The ghostwriters were not given much latitude to express themselves creatively; the writing becomes increasingly bland through the decades.
If a Nancy Drew mystery included bondage for our intrepid heroine, then the writer who composed the passages describing it most likely did so under direction. Though their creativity was constrained by economic considerations, it did occasionally mainfest itself; some of the scenes in which Nancy Drew is bound and gagged are rather descriptive, however.
Therefore, both male and female writers composed passages in which Nancy Drew was bound and gagged, but they did so under direction, not as an expression of creativity.
Hadji
Monday March 22 21:18:38 2010
Happy Belated Birthday
My 'puter was out of commission for a bit (that goddamned Windows XP 2010 Antivirus trojan..took a week for it to be ready), so I'll take this opportunity to wish this site a Happy 13th Birthday. Thanks for being here :)

So how was the Bar Mitzvah? ;)
Gagged Damsel Lover
Monday March 22 22:09:59 2010
Re: *MORE* Good News about CASTLE!!
Van wrote:

> > In the case of the two-parter on March 21st & 22nd,
> it's about a "cunning and elusive serial
> killer" and looks like the name of the game will be
> SUSPENSE. Episode titles: "Tick, Tick, Tick",
> and "Boom". Do we *know* somebody will get
bound & gagged next to a bomb? NO. Will it be
Beckett? (or Castle's cute little
Nancy-Drew-waiting-to-happen daughter?) No. Is my
Damsel-in-Distress glass half full? Yes.

Only going by what was mentioned earlier last month
civil
Monday March 22 22:14:48 2010
Re: S Love
Miss Cleo wrote:
> The titles
> of co-producer and associate producer are far more
> commonly used for investors.

Before the Mod puts the nail in the coffin on this topic:
"When she left the show [Dallas] in 1987, she began her own production company, Victoria Principal Productions, producing mostly movies for television."
Monday March 22 22:16:11 2010
24
Dana Walsh has been revealed as a mole inside CTU.

If there is a DiD god, this will result in Chloe (or maybe Renee) getting a full-treatment scene at the hands of Dana by the end of the season.
Monday March 22 22:22:12 2010
CORAZON SALVAHE
Not sure what we've got here but at the the end of the episode caught a quick shot of what I'm sure was a woman with a cleave gag and what looked pantyhose pulled over the head. This is a costume drama telenovela on Univision at 9pm. Maybe some west coaster can check it out and give us some more info.
HALLBIRD
Monday March 22 22:31:16 2010
Re: *MORE* Good News about CASTLE!!
civil wrote:

> Van wrote:
> > > In the case of the two-parter on March 21st & 22nd,
> > it's about a "cunning and elusive serial
> > killer" and looks like the name of the game will be
> > SUSPENSE. Episode titles: "Tick, Tick, Tick",
> > and "Boom". ...

> Only going by what was mentioned earlier last month

Obviously, the programming wizards at ABC waved their wands and shouted "Schedulous Chango!" I'm just grateful they didn't bump "Castle" to April in favor of two hour round-table discussions by a dozen unknown "celebrities", the topic being "Why 'Dancing With the Stars' is the BEST TV PROGRAM *EVER*!!"

Anyhoo... as I type this "Tick, Tick, Tick" will air tonight (22 March, 10PM, ABC), and "Boom" will air next Monday (29 March, 10PM, ABC).
http://jam.canoe.ca/Television/TV_Shows/C/Castle/2009/05/11/castle.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.vansfiction.net
Monday March 22 22:39:29 2010
Re: *MORE* Good News about CASTLE!!
Van wrote:

>> "Boom" will air next Monday (29 March, 10PM, ABC).
http://www.vansfiction.net

Nothing in the promo photos, except a ton of harmless photos of Castle's daughter, who might be the real target. If it's not Beckett, I'd take Dana Delaney first.

Monday March 22 23:00:55 2010
Re: *MORE* Good News about CASTLE!!
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> photos of Castle's daughter, who might be the real
> target. If it's not Beckett, I'd take Dana Delaney first.

Jackpot!! Next week. Dana Delaney tape-gagged. I'll have a cap up in minutes.

Monday March 22 23:00:57 2010
Re: *MORE* Good News about CASTLE!!
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Van wrote:
> >> Dana Delaney first.

Gagged scene on next week's episode of Castle
Monday March 22 23:01:19 2010
Re: *MORE* Good News about CASTLE!!
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Van wrote:
> >> "Boom" will air next Monday (29 March,
> 10PM, ABC).

Previews for next week showed a quick shot of *I believe* Dana Delaney with a duct tape gag. Not sure what happened to Beckett though...didn't look good....
JP
japfeif@aol.com
Monday March 22 23:01:46 2010
Castle - next week
Preview for next week's episode shows a woman (I believe Dana) tape-gagged.
Dextor
Monday March 22 23:04:54 2010
Castle pops for next week: DANA DELANY
JP wrote:

> Previews for next week showed a quick shot of *I believe*
> Dana Delaney with a duct tape gag. Not sure what happened
> to Beckett though...didn't look good....

Actually, it's Delany, no E -- sorry, I'm a spelling stickler -- and its DEFINITELY her. Silver duct tape, which is not my favorite, but Dana's looking very hot for her age (hell, for any age), and it looks like it's actually sealed to her mouth pretty well in a good close-up.

Also, I'm sure Beckett isn't be dead, thought I'm not figuring we'll get a scene for her next week. Still, she has plenty of time to get a scene. We're definitely getting DANA DELANY next week!

Miss Cleo
Monday March 22 23:10:47 2010
Castle
SPOILERS:

Also, although today's episode showed the apparent demise of female lead Stana Katic, there is no way they actually killed her off. I'm hoping the killer kidnapped her and stashed her away somewhere.

Darn, looking at spoiler pics on ABC Media, looks like Stana will be playing her usual role beside the hero.
Dextor
Monday March 22 23:14:07 2010
Re: Castle pops for next week: DANA DELANY
Miss Cleo wrote:

>> Actually, it's Delany, no E -- sorry, I'm a spelling
> stickler Also, I'm sure Beckett isn't be dead,

Yes, fixed the spelling error after I checked her scene history. If a recall, nobody has a clip of the Streets scene? Did it actualy happen?

If not, Dana finally gets the gag, and well overdue. And she just turned 53, but still looking good.

As for Becket, I'm guessing she didn't go back to her apartment because of the dead body in the hall earlier in the day, so she was taking a shower elsewhere. Easy to figure that one out.
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/6844/dana1.jpg
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8038/dana2.jpg
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/3403/dana3.jpg
Monday March 22 23:17:02 2010
Re: 24
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Dana Walsh has been revealed as a mole inside CTU.
> If there is a DiD god, this will result in Chloe (or
> maybe Renee) getting a full-treatment scene at the hands
> of Dana by the end of the season.

I had the same thought, although I didn't post because of the spoiler. But regardless, Chloe should be in peril at some point.

Monday March 22 23:19:32 2010
Re: Castle
Dextor wrote: > SPOILERS: > i think that mite be a good guess. how great would it be 2 have becket and the guest star chick both bound and gagged you bet!
Monday March 22 23:54:02 2010
Re: Castle
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Dextor wrote: > SPOILERS: > i think that mite be
> a good guess. how great would it be 2 have becket and the
> guest star chick both bound and gagged you bet!

And just to straighten out the schedule snafu, they are going to rerun the first part of this two parter next Sunday and the conclusion (the one with Delany tape gagged) next Monday.
southbound

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