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Sunday March 15 00:02:27 2020
Happy Anniversary
We click off another year of doing what we do here. Not something I would have thought would last 23 years, but that's where we are.

On March 15, 1997 this site began, as announced with this message posted to usenet:

I have started up a page dedicated to discussion on the topic of bondage scenes from mainstream media. The page doesn't have a lot to it yet (I only worked on it for a few hours so far), but it does have forums for posting about trades, VCR alerts, and general discussion.

As usual, it's happy anniversary to all because YOU make this page what it is.
Brian R
Sunday March 15 00:18:27 2020
Re: Happy Anniversary
With the announcement out of the way, I'll go a bit deeper. This site has changed over the years, it had to as the world did. Originally the goal was to two-fold. One was to provide alerts in the days when missing something could mean it was gone forever. The other was to facilitate trades between collectors to get those missed scenes, back when that meant making a physical tape and sending it through the mail.

So, what we do now is sort of the same, but sort of not. Alerts are a bit important, but if you miss it, someone got it and will put it up. Trades are almost a forgotten thing but people request and often receive clips.

There's a lot more just talk these days. I try to provide a place for that and be as fair as I can about keeping a balance between freedom and control. I don't always do a perfect job, and sometimes people are angered by my decisions. I understand. I'm always willing to listen to complaints and to answer questions about why I did what I did.

You should also feel free to throw suggestions on the sub-forum for that. I certainly don't guarantee I'll do anything with yours, but dialog is good. I do still have some tweaks I want for the forum software, especially to get online images back.

I don't know how many more years we'll have. I'll try to keep things going as long as people are interested.

Brian R
Sunday March 15 01:16:33 2020
Re: Top 10 Scenes of All-Time
I love all the top 10s!! Surprised I havnt seen once upon a time with Ginnifer Goodwin and Jennifer Morrison
Sunday March 15 02:17:29 2020
Re: Happy Anniversary
On March 15 2020 Brian R wrote:

> I don't know how many more years we'll have. I'll try to
> keep things going as long as people are interested.

I for one find the alerts still very important. As much fun as online clips & such are, I still like having a "physical copy" on DVD-R or even the good ol' VHS. I find the alerts given on the discussion page even more important than the actual "alerts" page, as most scenes folks see they immediately post to Discussion (and many don't make it to the "alerts" page itself beforehand). And since so many shows now repeat at least a few times soon after the original airing (Lifetime movies come to mind), and many more are available On Demand, there are hard;y any scenes I miss....and I am at the point that if I miss one, I miss one...my trading days are long gone!
So anyway, I for one find the pages here still a valuable resource Brian, and I hope you are around for a long time to come!


JP
japfeif@aol.com
Sunday March 15 02:37:18 2020
Scene ID
Can someone help me ID a scene?
There's two girls who get kidnapped and taken to a motel. One is blonde and the other is brunette. They're cleave gagged and sitting in bathroom floor and they find a razor blade and one cuts herself so she can write a message with blood.

Looked on database but couldn't figure out which one it was based off of keywords
Sunday March 15 02:46:51 2020
Re: Top 10 Scenes of All-Time
On March 14 2020 Didfan wrote:

> I know it seems quite hard to pick 10 scenes out from the
> tons of "good ones" that have existed since
> many decades in mainstream TV/Movie, but what would be
> your personal all-time Top 10 scenes ?

Unsurprisingly, my Top 10 list would consist exclusively of Chinese scenes; hence I'm offering a "non-Chinese Top 10" instead, starting from my most favorite scene. Places 3 to 5 are the only ones where I'm not set on the exact order, and they are somewhat interchangable. Nostalgy also plays a big role in the list.

1. Malgorzata Niemirska - Czterej Pancerni i Pies (Kwadrans po Nieparzystej)
2. Marlene Dauden - Combat Killers
3. Mel Harris - Distant Cousins
4. Ji-Won Ha - Damo (Episode 3)
5. Raffaella Carra - Von Ryan's Express
6. Honor Blackman - The Avengers (Intercrime)
7. Glynis Barber - Dempsey & Makepeace (Pilot)
8. Amanda Ooms - Young Indiana Jones (Barcelona, May 1917)
9. Roberta Angelica - Relic Hunter (Transformation)
10. Shirley Eaton - The Saint (Invitation to Danger)
Kitai
Sunday March 15 03:19:25 2020
Re: Scene ID
On March 15 2020 (unsigned poster) wrote:


> They're cleave gagged and sitting in bathroom floor and they find a
> razor blade and one cuts herself so she can write a
> message with blood.

Big Game with Haley Webb and Marcy McCusker. Always liked that scene.

CM
Sunday March 15 03:24:46 2020
Re: Happy Anniversary
Happy Anniversary. Hard to believe it was 1997 when this started. Even as the world is changing, this site is still very useful and interesting. So many scenes are discovered thanks to this site, scenes that might be missed and lost otherwise.

I was here at the very beginning and am still interested and very glad you do what you do. I hope it continues for a long time.
ID4J
id4j@aol.com
Sunday March 15 04:55:35 2020
Top 10
Single White Female
X-Files S2
Love Object
Los 80
Alice Creed
Funny Games 2007
Whispers in the Dark
Head Over Water
24 S1
Bound
Sunday March 15 06:48:25 2020
Inquiry
https://www.deviantart.com/wrasslinallday/art/Jen-Tape-Gag-833808548

Does anyone know what scene is this from?
Sunday March 15 09:23:56 2020
Mardaani 2 2019
You may all remember a few years back Bollywood star Rani Mukerji played a top cop and got the FT (albeit in a very short scene) in the film Mardaani, and a pretty good on screen gagging in a scene deleted from the first film.

Well, the sequel has another scene for our star. No gag, but she does spend a few mins at the end of the film tied hands behind and menaced by the film's serial killer. There's also a female hostage whose chained to the floor involved in the climax.

The scene is nothing special, but Mukerji is very attractive, so might be of interested.
Steve a
Sunday March 15 09:26:10 2020
Re: Top 10 Scenes of All-Time
On March 14 2020 Didfan wrote:

> What would be your personal all-time Top 10 scenes?

I'm quite moody, therefore I don't have an immutable ranking, I'll mention the scenes in random order:

-The Disappearance of Alice Creed (Gemma Arterton), Bloedlink (Sarah Chronis), Kidnapping Stella (Jella Haase).
-Smallville 6.15 "Freak" (Allison Mack)
-Supernatural 4.10 "Heaven and Hell" (Genevieve Cortese)
-Under the Dome 1.02+ "The Fire" (Brittany Robertson)
-Belmonte 1.50-1.51 (Gabriela Relvas)
-Satisfaction (2007) 2.07 "All Those Monkeys" (Alison Whyte)
-The Running Man (Maria Conchita Alonso)
-The Night Before (Lori Loughlin)
-Banshee (2013) 4.07 "Truths Other Than the Ones You Tell Yourself" (Eliza Dushku)
-The Ghostmaker (2012) (Liz Fenning)

I might mention many, many, many others, and I surely forgot some scenes, but hey, only ten places allowed! xD Right now this is my list.
Sunday March 15 09:48:06 2020
Re: Black Widow Killer -Lifetime
> In the last ten minutes, Judy Dwyer (Erin Karpluk)
> confronts Alice (Karen Cliche) to save her daughter
> (Morgan Kohan). After a struggle Judy kills Alice. She
runs to find daughter tied to a pole and cleavegagged.

Screencap?
Sunday March 15 10:05:36 2020
Re: Black Widow Killer -Lifetime
> confronts Alice (Karen Cliche) to save her daughter
> (Morgan Kohan). After a struggle Judy kills Alice.
> She runs to find daughter tied to a pole & cleavegagged.

Short but not bad

https://i.imgur.com/OApcXKp.png

Sunday March 15 11:24:33 2020
Top 30
1 Whispers in the Dark - Annabella Sciorra
2 Colombo - Ep. No tie to die - Joanna Going
3 Distant Cousins - Mel Harris
4 X-Files - Ep. Irresistible - Gillian Anderson
5 Opera (1987) - Cristina Marsillach
6 A Place Called Today 1972 - Cheri Caffaro
7 The Abductors (1972) - Gerie Bronson, Jeramie Rain, Ined Som, Honey Well, Laurie Rose aka Jennifer Brooks, Cheri Caffaro
8 T.J. Hooker Ep.The Obsession (5.09) - Heather Locklear
9 CHIPs S05E21 - Ep. The Game of War - Sandra Kerns
10 Il vicino di casa (1973) - Ep. La porta sul buio - Laura Belli
11 Mordkommission Königswinkel - S01E01 - Liebe bis über den Tod - Lavinia Wilson
12 Mordparta Ep. Nadvlada (1.06) - Markéta Plankova
13 Terror Among Us (1981) - Pat Klous, Kim Lankford, Sarah Purcell, Tracy Reed, Elta Blake
14 The Collector (1965) - Samantha Eggar
15 Navy NCIS: Naval Criminal Investigative Service - Ep. UnSEALed (1.18) - Sasha Alexander
16 Terror Stalks the Class Reunion (1992) - Kate Nelligan
17 Perfect Prey (1998) - C. C. Pulitzer, Joely Fisher, Judy Kain, Kelly McGillis
18 Zone Stad - Ep. Supervolle Maan (7.12) - Lien Van de Kelder
19 L'assassino è costretto ad uccidere ancora (1975) - Cristina Galbó
20 Ilsa, She Wolf of The SS (1974) - Peggy Sipots
21 Knight Rider (1982) - Ep. The Topaz Connection (1.16) - Jeanna Michaels
22 Charlie's Angels (1976) - Ep. Marathon Angels - Betty Jean Samuelson, Jere Rae Mansfield aka Jeri Lea Ray
23 The Incredible 2-Headed Transplant (1971) - Darlene Duralia, Pat Priest
24 Bits and Pieces (1985) - Suzanna Smith, Sheila Lussier, Unknown
25 Haute tension - Malween Le Besco
26 Soko Koln - Ep. Das verhor - Clelia Sarto
27 Crazy six (1998) - Ivana Milicevic, Breaka Kleinova
28 Col cuore in gola (1967) - Ewa Aulin
29 13 Hours in a Warehouse - Meisha Johnson
30 Blind Witness - Victoria Principal
Andrew
Sunday March 15 11:52:46 2020
Re: Scene ID
On March 15 2020 (unsigned poster) wrote:

> Can someone help me ID a scene?
> There's two girls who get kidnapped and taken to a motel.

Sounds like Haley Webb and Marcy McCusker in Big Game. They at least fit your description, whether or not the scene matches.
Sam
Sunday March 15 12:02:56 2020
Happy Anniversary
Happy Anniversary, Brian! Thank you for your unprecedented achievement and original creation! Your Website has become a staple of my existence; I peruse it daily. I enjoy reading the posts of others whose interests are aligned with mine, and looking at the pictures and videos you post. The voluminous Scene Database, whose information was amassed in the same manner as the Oxford English Dictionary, has helped me on countless occasions, and I've myself have made several contributions.
Keep up the great work!
Hadji
Sunday March 15 12:45:20 2020
What the hell? I'm bored.
1. Funny Games (Both original and remake)
2. Single White Female
3. Bound
4. Die Watching
5. Child's Play 2019
6. Eaten Alive
7. Better Watch Out
8. Midnight Fear
9. Texas Chainsaw Massacre/Leatherface
10. Los 80
FF
Sunday March 15 12:51:24 2020
Re: Inquiry
On March 15 2020 (unsigned poster) wrote:

> Does anyone know what scene is this from?

I've posted a link on video page for you, it's you tube so not sure if is allowed here or not. But Prank vs Prank is the couple that used to do it.
Mushroom
Sunday March 15 13:01:07 2020
'Scream Franchise Back'
Another putzfest?

https://www.castanet.net/news/Entertainment/279485/Scream-franchise-back
Sunday March 15 13:06:27 2020
Re: First Scenes?
Poster: (unsigned poster)

Your post has one or more problems and can't be posted as is.
You can use the contact form below for more information.

http://brianspage.com/email.html

The Moderator
Sunday March 15 15:16:34 2020
Re: 'Scream Franchise Back'
If this indeed ends up being a sequel, it'd sure be good if Neve Campbell finally got a good scene. Guess we'll find out as more details about this surface.
Sunday March 15 15:19:51 2020
Re: Happy Anniversary

Thank you very much for keeping this site going all these years.
Parvel
Sunday March 15 15:31:35 2020
Re: Happy Anniversary
Happy Anniversary old buddy! We owe you more than you can ever know!
Snowcat
Sunday March 15 15:40:14 2020
Re: Happy Anniversary
Happy anniversary. May this and the DID community continue to forever thrive and be strong.
Sunday March 15 15:48:34 2020
Re: Happy Anniversary
On March 15 2020 Brian R wrote:

> We click off another year of doing what we do here. Not
> something I would have thought would last 23 years, but
> that's where we are.

Time flies when you're having fun. :-) Thanks for the wonderful community all these years. Brian's is still my favorite DiD-forum on the web. Here's to 23 more!
TuxedoJarod
Sunday March 15 15:51:02 2020
BAD Cats
Working with JP, we were able to get the clip downloaded for everyone who wants to see it.

This is the OTM scene, grainy but better than nothing.

ON the video page.
Sunday March 15 15:51:47 2020
Re: Happy Anniversary
> Happy Anniversary old buddy! We owe you more than you can ever know!
~~~~
Agreed.
Not only is this a Free site, it's moderated and isn't plagued by Pop-up ads, videos that begin playing whether or not you click on them, or encourage the functionality of useless personal avatars.

J.T.
Sunday March 15 17:11:58 2020
Re: Happy Anniversary
On March 15 2020 Brian R wrote:

> We click off another year of doing what we do here. Not
> something I would have thought would last 23 years, but
> that's where we are.

23 years sounds unbelievable, unless you have been lurking around here for most of that time like I have.

Thank you for every single one of these years, and hopefully for more to come.
Peter de K
Sunday March 15 17:26:25 2020
Re: Happy Anniversary
The anniversary is bringing back serious nostalgia for me; I first discovered DID websites back in 2000 and imagine my surprise when I saw others had this peculiar interest that I'd long had since boyhood. Between Brian's Page and also Van's, Origpooh, etc. (props to anyone who remembers those) among scores of others. I'll never forget when I first stumbled onto DID sites.
Sunday March 15 17:39:38 2020
Re: Happy Anniversary
On March 15 2020 Brian R wrote:

> We click off another year of doing what we do here. Not
> something I would have thought would last 23 years, but
> that's where we are.
> On March 15, 1997 this site began, as announced with this
> message posted to usenet:
> I have started up a page dedicated to discussion on the
> topic of bondage scenes from mainstream media.
Happy Anniversary My friend, I remember that the first time I visited your forum was in 1999. And since then I have not stopped visiting it. May you celebrate many more anniversaries.
Rony
Sunday March 15 17:57:22 2020
Happy Anniversary
From one of your original Dreambook fans.
Gag Fan
Sunday March 15 19:09:28 2020
Re: Top 10 Scenes of All-Time
On March 14 2020 Didfan wrote:

> I know it seems quite hard to pick 10 scenes out but what would be
> your personal all-time Top 10 scenes ?

I think all of these are great, although I might replace some on a different day. And I admit one is selected mostly because of how much I like the actress - though I won't say Hu. I mean whom. Alphabetically:

Araguaia ep. 55 - Milena Toscano.
Die! Die! My Darling! - Stephanie Powers.
Eaten Alive - Marilyn Burns.
Incredible Two-Headed Transplant, The - Pat Priest.
Land of the Giants - The Unsuspected - Deanna Lund.
Las Vegas - Junk in the Trunk - Vanessa Marcil.
Martial Law - Endgame - Kelly Hu.
Mission Impossible - The Question - Elizabeth Ashley.
Penumbra - Christina Brondo.
Renegade - Love Hurts - Brittany Powell.






Sunday March 15 19:47:57 2020
Re: Top 10 Scenes of All-Time
On March 14 2020 Didfan wrote:

> I know it seems quite hard to pick 10 scenes out from the
> tons of "good ones" that have existed since
> many decades in mainstream TV/Movie, but what would be
> your personal all-time Top 10 scenes ?


Here are my top 10 with some honorable mentions:

1) Geminis (a bound + gagged Ana Turpin is given a completely gratuitous handgag)
2) No Way Out (not an actual bondage scene, but Linda Darnell does get the mother of all handgags)
3) Du Hast Mir Meine Familie Geraubt (Katharina Abt suffers multiple on-screen gaggings)
4) Il Burbero (Debra Feuer's legs plus a thick white cleave gag should delight everybody)
5) Tatort “Vom Himmel hoch” (Lisa Bitter stripped to her underwear and left taped to a heater and thickly cleave-gagged).
6) Stralsund “Kreuzfeuer” (Anke Retzlaff is bound + gagged in her bra and panties and also assists in her own on-screen gagging)
7) Pacific Drive (Redhead Libby Tanner bound, OTM gagged, and chained to her own bed - if only it were available in HD!)
8) The Bill “Russian Roulette” (the stunning Eglantine Rembauville mmmphing through a huge black tape gag)
9) Защитница: (Russian cop Ekaterina Klimova briefly bound and tape gagged, then given one of the greatest, albeit brief, handgags ever)
10) Condor “Trapped in History” (Katherine Cunningham bound with rope and gagged with a sponge + necktie).

Honorable Mentions: Beyond Remedy (Marie Zielcke w/ wraparound tape gag), Highlander “Black Tower” (Rochelle Redfield OTM gagged), Damnation “God's Body” (super-cute redhead Sarah Jones cleave gagged on-screen), Mes chères études (Deborah Francois nude and OTM gagged), and Love Object (Melissa Sagemiller strapped down and ballgagged).

Special Honorable Mention: There is a Chinese scene (presumably a movie, though I have no idea of the title) with three cute damsels in two separate scenes. In the first part two young women are bound and tape-gagged side-to-side as a bunch of men talk around them. They struggle and squirm to no avail, at one point glancing at each other helplessly (1st link). The second scene features another young, attractive damsel tied to a chair with a fair amount of rope and gagged with black tape. She appears to be used as leverage in a dispute between rival gangs meeting in a parking garage; wearing a blue dress that show offs her exquisite arms and legs, she struggles and mmmphs emphatically at times in this classic damsel-in-distress scenario (2nd & 3rd links).

http://img28125.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=334271879_.mp4_snapshot_00.23_2019.03.23_12.06.51_122_957lo.jpg

http://img28114.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=334272482_.mp4_snapshot_03.50_2019.03.23_12.06.01_122_668lo.jpg

http://img28105.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=342723820_.mp4_snapshot_03.42_2019.03.23_12.05.53_122_1168lo.jpg
Ice Cream Man
Sunday March 15 20:11:49 2020
Re: Top 10 Scenes of All-Time
On March 15 2020 (unsigned poster) wrote:

> > I know it seems quite hard to pick 10 scenes out but
> what would be your personal all-time Top 10 scenes ?


Coming out of retirement to wish Brian R. a HAPPY HAPPY, here is another Top 10. Not truly my favorites necessarily - a lot of great favs were mentioned already... (along with lots of quickie scenes that were (IMO) N.F.G.) BUT, this listing is 10 great ones that I don't recall being previously mentioned.

Most Dangerous Man Alive
De Frente Al Sol
Deadly Lessons
Pony Soldier
Evil Town
Sunset Beach (several, but mainly the weeks long episodes
soap scenes with L. Herring)
Gritos Violencia
Retribution: Sight Unseen
Deadly Embrace
Ginger
no trekkie
Sunday March 15 20:35:51 2020
Re: Happy Anniversary
20 years for me here in the summer. Thank you for giving this little fetish of mine a home to explore, grow, and for all you've done for this wonderful community. Cheers Brian.

Sixburgh
Sunday March 15 20:56:13 2020
Happy Anniversary
Seeing as we're celebrating, what actually is the first entry in the database?
Sunday March 15 21:06:42 2020
Re: Happy Anniversary
On March 15 2020 (unsigned poster) wrote:

> Seeing as we're celebrating, what actually is the first
> entry in the database?

Record number: 1

Title: Guiding Light
Medium: Soap Opera
Actress: Sherry Stringfield

Description: Kidnapped and held for ransom by her ex. Tied to a chair and gagged with white cloth between the teeth. Several good closeups. Ungagged for a phone call, then regagged on screen.

CM
Sunday March 15 22:41:45 2020
Supergirl 5x16
Just saw the promo for next week’s episode of Supergirl.
Melissa Benoist (I could be wrong) looks to be tied to a chair with rope, can’t tell if she’s gagged or not. Appears to be a Virtual Reality scenario.
jxol@bigpond.net.au
Sunday March 15 22:52:38 2020
Re: Supergirl 5x16
On March 15 2020 (unsigned poster) wrote:

> Just saw the promo for next week’s episode of Supergirl.
> Melissa Benoist (I could be wrong) looks to be tied to a
> chair with rope, can’t tell if she’s gagged or not.

Yes it's Melissa. No gagged for sure.
Sunday March 15 22:54:04 2020
Re: Top 10 Scenes of All-Time
On March 14 2020 Didfan wrote:

> > I know it seems quite hard to pick 10 scenes out but
> what would be

Missy Peregrym - Rookie Blue 2x07
Missy Peregrym - Rookie Blue 4x01
Trish Stratus - WWE Monday Night RAW
Olivia DeJonge - Better Watch Out
Ezgi Asaroglu - O Hayat Benim episode 60
Shannon Kenny - The Invisible Man 2x16
Sally Rogers - The Bill "Caught By The Killer"
Cameron Diaz - A Life Less Ordinary
Jessica Alba - Into the Blue
Yvonne Craig - The Man from U.N.C.L.E. "The Brain Killer Affair"

HM: Jessica Biel in Ulee's Gold, Catherine Russell in Chandler & Co, Kristin Chenoweth in Family Weekend, Marlo Thomas in That Girl, Kirsten Dunst in Small Soldiers, Robin Dearden in Knight Rider

What can I say? I like tape.
Sunday March 15 23:49:26 2020
Happy Anniversary
Happy Anniversary and congratulations. You have run a great site.
Gordian Knot

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