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Monday March 02 00:16:00 2020
Re: Will and Grace
On March 01 2020 CM wrote:

> Pretty sure it's regular cast member Megan Mullally.

Yeah, I saw the promo as well.

Brian R
Monday March 02 01:40:58 2020
B.A.D.Cats
You know the thing on this "holy grail" scene, I have it on an old VHS compilation tape I got probably 15 years ago from a fellow collector named Brian (not "our" Brian!) back when I was into the trading thing. The scene seriously isn't that great and I think so many folks would be disappointed in it. Unfortunately I do not have any idea how to get it from a VHS tape to being able to post it here or I would (and wouldn't even charge a million & a half bucks to do so!! haha).
You see Michelle sitting on a bed with a very loose OTM gag for about all of 12 seconds, the baggie removes it (it's so loose he basically just pulls it off from the front, no untying necessary!).
For hose how have only heard about it but never seen it...it's SO not a great scene. I guess it's just cuz it's so rare, but it seriously is no great shakes.
JP
japfeif@aol.com
Monday March 02 01:45:02 2020
Re: Something to figure out
On March 01 2020 Gagster wrote:

> On March 01 2020 The Moderator wrote:
> > regular put in $10k (and who would?) it wouldn't add
> up.
> This whole thing is just a scam, and the ridiculous
> amount that he's asking for reeks of a very bad attempt
> at a joke.

A smart scammer would have been content to try to make off with a quick 10G. So I guess it's meant as a joke. Ha ha, Should have saved it another month.
Monday March 02 02:15:17 2020
Re: B.A.D.Cats
On March 02 2020 JP wrote:

> You know the thing on this "holy grail" scene,
> I have it on an old VHS compilation tape The scene seriously isn't that great

Never been a Holy Grail for me, not even close.


Monday March 02 02:42:16 2020
B.A.D.Cats
okay, I managed to get the video clip of the B.A.D. Cats scene with Michelle Pfeiffer uploaded and was able to post it. It's on the Video Page. So anyone who has never seen it can give it a gander.

The video is pretty grainy, but you can get the gist of the scene.
Caveat: the sound is fairly low (it wasn't originally, something in the conversion process I guess) so make sure you have your speakers ALL the way up. Enjoy!
JP
japfeif@aol.com
Monday March 02 02:56:47 2020
Re: Something to figure out
On March 01 2020 The Moderator wrote:

> I have just removed a message, and we'll discuss as a
> group what to do with it. Here is an edited version

In my opinion the message should be removed. The whole thing is just a joke . 1 million bucks for a scene that nobody knows if he has it or not. You know better than me, but at least for me, this site is for sharing and discussing not asking for money (and 1 million bucks!!). But even without this part the request looks like either a scam or someone here thinks that we are all that stupid.
Monday March 02 07:41:01 2020
Re: B.A.D.Cats
On March 02 2020 JP wrote:

>lle sitting on a bed with a very loose OTM
>
There is a second scene in the DB where it says she's gagged with tape with no other details about length of scene etc.

Monday March 02 11:01:27 2020
Re: B.A.D.Cats
On March 02 2020 (unsigned poster) wrote:

> On March 02 2020 JP wrote:
> >lle sitting on a bed with a very loose OTM
> >
> There is a second scene in the DB where it says she's
> gagged with tape with no other details about length of
> scene etc.

Ah. No, it's definitely a wide OTM. The scene lasts around 15-20 seconds


JP
japfeif@aol.com
Monday March 02 12:18:43 2020
Re: B.A.D.Cats
On March 02 2020 JP wrote:

> On March 02 2020 (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > On March 02 2020 JP wrote:
> > >lle sitting on a bed with a very loose OTM
> > >
> > There is a second scene in the DB where it says
> she's
> > gagged with tape with no other details about length
> of
> > scene etc.
> Ah. No, it's definitely a wide OTM. The scene lasts
> around 15-20 seconds

One of her captors tells her that he'll remove her gag if she'll behave, and she glares at him while still bound and gagged. I love it when a bound and gagged damsel glares at her captor.
Hadhu
Monday March 02 13:20:12 2020
Re: Blind Ermittelt
On February 17 2020 Pixy wrote:

> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10940408/mediaviewer/rm108394
> 7521
> Upcoming German movie looks like it is gonna be a good
> one

This turned out better than I expected, to me the classical average scenes. Details:

Title: Blind ermittelt: Die verlorenen Seelen von Wien aka Blind ermittelt: Blutsbande
Medium: TV Movie
Actress: Patricia Aulitzky

Description: Austrian/German TV movie with a blind ex-cop now consultant, private investigator or just bored rich dude. His sister gets abducted from the restrooms of the opera house. At 7:30 minutes in, we see her getting carried to a van, probably unconscious. At 11 minutes she is seen inside the van, awake, tapegagged and hands taped in front, with some closeups of her face. At 17:30, now in the bulk of a cargo ship, our damsel gets taped to a chair, hands to armrests, legs to chair legs. In addition to her tape gag, she is now also blindfolded with a cloth. Gag is removed quickly and the damsel left alone. Blindfold is removed too at 27 minutes.

Much later, she tries to escape, but is picked up again, resulting in her getting the full treatment again: gagged, blindfolded and now fastened with rope around her body to the same chair as before - short glimpse at 1 hour 10 minutes. She is finally freed 1 hour 21 minutes in.

Damsel is wearing a white blouse, black pants, a black knitted jacket and sneakers. Scenes are dimly lit, but still acceptable given the scenario. What we get: scenes of her gagged only, blindfolded only, gagged and blindfolded. What we don't get to see: how she gets overpowered at the opera, a gag or blindfold applied, and how she frees herself from her bonds before her escape attempt.

Peter de K
Monday March 02 13:26:35 2020
Re: Blind Ermittelt
On March 02 2020 Peter de K wrote:

> This turned out better than I expected. Details:

Link added to the video page.
Peter de K
Monday March 02 13:29:50 2020
Greek damsels
This post was moved to The Video Page.

Poster: (unsigned poster)
Reason: Video request or link not on Video Page. See FAQs 1.11 & 1.12.
The Moderator
Monday March 02 14:13:31 2020
Kalp Atisi (Heartbeat)
Another scene I stumbled over a few weeks ago, I believe it has not been mentioned here before. I liked it for the serious distress situation:

Title: Kalp Atisi
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Merve Cagiran

Description: Episode: Episodes: 16 - 18

About an hour into episode 16 of this Turkish series, Ipek (Merve) gets knocked out with a blow to the head. 10 minutes into episode 17, we finally see where she ended up: in the cellar of an abandoned building about to be demolished. Hands tied behind her back with rope, feet tied too, cleave gagged and blindfolded, lying on the bare concrete in her street clothes. Additionally, her feet are chained to the wall with a chain maybe ten feet long.

There is very little in episode 17, action picks up in episode 18. Ipek has realized that the good guys don't know where she is and won't come, the bad guys couldn't care less. Calling for help also not an option, she must try to free herself. Short establishing shots at 10:00 and 33:40, Ipek starts fighting against her bonds at 45:25.

At 1:03:00 there is some kind of daydream sequence where a little girl shows up, pushes Ipek's blindfold up to her forehead and talks to her, a short intermezzo showing her gagged without the blindfold.

At 1:07:00, blindfolded again of course, Ipek pulls off a Houdini: Blindly and with her hands tied behind, she opens the chain's padlock with a hairpin. 1:25:15: Our damsel pushes herself up to the wall, manages to move her bound hands under her butt to the front, unties her feet and removes her gag and blindfold. At 1:28:50 she tries to free her hands by rubbing the rope across a small rock conveniently lying around, but to no avail. Up until almost the end of the episode, it is still unclear if she manages to alert the demolition crew before they knock down the building.
Peter de K
Monday March 02 16:29:10 2020
Poughkeepsie Tapes on Amazon Prime
The Poughkeepsie Tapes is out on Prime Video - free to watch. Very tight hogtie, strappado, ball gag and arms behind back. Warning - plenty of gore and disturbing.

https://fathersonholygore.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/the-poughkeepsie-tapes-dvdrip-2009-kissjour-186_0001.jpg

https://t4z5n2e5.stackpathcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/the-poughkeepsie-tapes-3.jpg
Zar
Monday March 02 20:10:20 2020
Re: Poughkeepsie Tapes on Amazon Prime
A surprisingly effective entry in the found footage/faux documentary category. And while most of the parts that are of interest to us are, sadly, from the titular tapes, which are low-res VHS tapes with tracking and dropout issues, they're still pretty interesting. In addition to the scenes mentioned above, there's an extended part with a close up shot of a damsel wearing either a clear tape gag or a clear vinyl gag. Either way, she emotes quite a bit with her lips sealed but visible, which I think is even more rare in mainstream scenes than ballgags.

Definitely worth checking out, if you're not sqeamish.
Bob

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