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Saturday February 17 00:29:09 2024
Zoe.mp4 (2023)
Julia Sarah Stone get kidnapped by Emily tennant and tape gagged as per the poster. Not sure what else is in the movie.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt27142845/
Saturday February 17 00:39:09 2024
Re: Zoe.mp4 (2023)
Emily Tennant's been a DID herself many times and now she's the one doing the kidnapping. Amusing role reversal for her. She's been both a DID and kidnapper.
Saturday February 17 12:26:31 2024
Re: Vuelve a mi
On February 12 2024 Dextor wrote:

> Promo for the Monday, Feb 19 finale of Vuelve a mi on
> Telemundo shows the villainess played by Kimberly Dos
> Ramos threatening several tied up women with a gun.
> The lead heroine played by Samadhi Zendejas is tied up in
> a chair, arms in front, rope around her torso, legs tied
> at ankles. Laura Flores is in the same room, but you can
> only see has her arms tied in front in the promo. In
> another room, on the floor, Anagabriel Marcoccia is
> cleave-gagged with her hands tied behind her back.
> The promo is for the finale, but scene could probably
> start in an earlier episode. It airs weeknights on Telemundo at 9pm ET.

This one aired last night, episode 91. Anagabriel Marcoccia is the only one who gets full treatment as she's show twice bound and cleave gagged on the floor as seen in the trailer. I don't think her capture was shown and she's freed pretty quickly. As for the other damsels, they're all 3 chairtied as seen in the trailer and threatened by the villainess. While one of them does receive a chloroforming, no gags for any of them. They're eventually rescued before the end of the episode.
Saturday February 17 13:28:52 2024
Spoiled DIDs and questions
An example of spoiled DID's was asked, I think the twin girls in "Chance" (2009, also knows as Housekeeper's revenge) may be another example of that. Same thing in the Mexican remake, "Los trapos sucios se lavan en casa". In both movies, the family's daughters get bound and gagged and dressed in maids uniforms by the actual maids.

A question of my own: there are many scenes, especially in soaps, where there is marathon bondage in which the victim is tied up for a number of episodes (or for a long screentime, in movies or on tv). For example, Tranquilo Papa , Las dos caras de ana, La duena etc. However, which scene would come to mind where the amount of onscreen (re)tying and/or (re)gagging is very prominent? Bonus points if there are changes in position or the way of binding/gagging during all this. What would be the most fruitful set of scenes in this regard?

Can also be a movie, of course. Alice Creed and its clones are probably candidates, though the variety in the bondage is relatively low there is lots of onscreen application of restraints. "Du hast mir meine familie geraubt" may also be a candidate. Do other scenes (movie or TV) top or equal that?

A second question, loosely related to the first: any scenes where there are multiple captors, one or more of them go out and they return and get angry that the remaining captor(s) have untied and/or ungagged the victim ("why isn't she bound/gagged?")? I seem to vaguely recall one such scene but I can't place it. May have been in a book.

B52
Saturday February 17 15:50:55 2024
Burga AKA Deadly Visions (2023)
A real case of quantity over quality in this new Spanish Horror flick, but the gag is on the nasty side, which makes it worthy of a look. I've only added the highlights here, there's a few more scenes of the heroine resting while very loosely strapped to the bed.


Title: Burga AKA Deadly Visions (2023)
Medium: Movie
Actress: Mercè Llorens

Description: In this Spanish horror Elena (Llorens) spends the entire runtime a patient of a grim mental hospital. She is there because she is cursed to see visions of demons and other spooky stuff. Is she mad or is she really seeing horrors? Will the audience care?

Anyhoo, at about the 51mins Elena tries to escape and is stopped. We then see her strapped, arms, legs and head to an operating table, being given Electric shock treatment. She is gagged with a large grey leather strap with a plug in the middle. Elena is only shown for a few seconds, but she struggles and grunts rather nicely.

At the 55mins mark, in a dream sequence, Elena is shown strapped to her hospital bed, screaming a demon creeps up on her. Scene lasts for about 10 secs.No Gag.

At the 60min mark, Elena is now strapped to a different bed, which is raised so she can talk to the docs. Her head strap returns, and she is given true serum as she begs to the doctor not to do so. No gag.

At the 62min mark, after another botched escape attempt, she is back on the table getting the Electric Stock Treatment, gagged again. We get better close ups, the nasty nurses ungag her, she calls them nasty names and they regag her offscreen - thou we do hear her MMPPH, and they deliver the treatment.

Elena then spends the next few mins strapped in a wheelchair but she is dazed from the shock treatment and doesn't move or speak. No gag.

At the 71 Mins mark, after a third botched escape attempt, ELena is given water "treatment" with a hose and strapped to an upright table. Brief scene, no gag.

At the 73Min Mark, Elena is strapped loosely in her bed. No gag.

At the 75Min Mark, She is shown being strapped into the wheelchair. She spends a couple of mins in the chair, but is much more lucid this time around. No gag.

Elena is briefly back in the chair at the 81Min Mark. No gag.

At the 85min Mark, Elena is loosely strapped into a regular chair. No gag.
Steve A
Saturday February 17 19:41:53 2024
Re: Returning captor angry at remaining captor(s)
> A second question, loosely related to the first: any scenes where there are multiple captors, one or more of them go out and they return and get angry that the remaining captor(s) have untied and/or ungagged the victim ("why isn't she bound/gagged?")?
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Two scenes where an ungagged damsel tries to sweet talk the "good" captor into untying her:

Farrah Fawcett in Charlie's Angels ("An Angel's Trail"; 4.21) where she was kidnapped by a man and his two adult sons. Jill Monroe sweet talks the mentally handicapped son, who is just beginning to untie her hands in front when stopped by his returning father.

Cassie Howarth in "A Deadly Price for Her Pretty Face" (2020), where she tries to talk sense to the brother dying of cancer.

J.T.
Saturday February 17 19:50:10 2024
Re: Returning captor angry at remaining captor(s)
On February 17 2024 J.T. wrote:

> > A second question, loosely related to the first: any
> scenes where there are multiple captors, one or more of
> them go out and they return and get angry that the
> remaining captor(s) have untied and/or ungagged the
> victim ("why isn't she bound/gagged?")?

In this episode of the defunct series Sinbad, the beautiful female lead, Jacqueline Collen, is captured by Vikings. She is bound and gagged because she is a sorceress. When she is briefly ungagged, the Viking leader demands to know why she isn't gagged.

Title: The Adventures of Sinbad (1996)
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Jacqueline Collen

Description: Episode: "The Ties That Bind" (1.8)

Maeve, the Apprentice Sorceress (Collen) is captured by Vikings. A giant crab in the service of a demon has taken possession of their longship and they must provide a suitable sacrifice to leave the island.

Great episode, with the tall, sexy actress chained through most of it, and gagged (over the hair) through half of it (white cloth over the mouth gag). A couple of on-screen gagging scenes. A real damsel-in-distress thing.

For much of the episode she's led through a forest bound and gagged; towards the end she's chained to the floor of a cave for demon sacrifice.

Hands chained in front, heavy manacles with about 1 ft of chain between them. She runs off and is felled by a South American type bolas early on but gets up from the forest floor with hardly a hair out of place. She is gagged to prevent her using magic spells, good close-ups of gagged face towards the end. Classic 'film OTM gag' which she never tries to remove despite having her hands in front and it is loose enough to be easily slid down by her captors when they want her to talk but she is completely incapable of speech when it is pulled back in place. The sort of co-operative captive that we all would want? Maybe a magic gag; there is a chain on the cave floor that snakes up to attach itself to her manacles at the end and, compared to using explosives to defeat the giant crab, the gag effectiveness does not require that much suspension of disbelief.
Hadji
Saturday February 17 22:12:51 2024
Looking for a scene from 90s/Early 2000s
A scene from some old TV show I saw as a lad I can't get out my head but also can't remember the show it's from. Aired in the UK as late as 2005.

The show's episode had each member of the family having strange dreams, the one I remember most being the wife dreaming of her husband leaving on a train in a noir setting, which continued in the husband's dream, with him saying, "She needs me. Stop this train!" (I like trains, so that's probably why it stood out).

The part of interest to this form would be the teen daughter's nightmare, where she is bound to a chair and used in an experiment by a mad scientist that turns her into a blob of goo.

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