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Saturday August 02 12:34:22 2003
The name is the thing
I'm fixing up some of the odd stuff, here's one we'll need to resolve. It involves the lovely and oft-tied Ms. Kristina Malandro Wagner. She is variously credit as:

Kristina Malandro
Kristina Malandro Wagner
Kristina Wagner aka Kristina Malandro (?)
Kristina Malandro aka Kristina Wagner


Part of the problem is that she changed her name midstream, but from looking at the IMDB it would seem that Wagner is her official name now.

I'm not sure what's best, probably every entry:

Kristina Wagner aka Kristina Malandro

Thoughts?


Brian R
Saturday August 02 12:40:59 2003
Editors
If you haven't checked the tool (see below) lately, it now spits out an alphabetic list of actresses. Check it over for any funnies. Especially check for misspellings that generate two names.

There are quite a few with ? after the name, those will need to be resolved one way or the other, either confirmed or changed to Unknown or something.

We should have most of the "odd sized names" fixed other than the foreign ones, I'll be working on the parse tool to handle them.

http://brianspage.com/dbedit/act.html

Brian R
Saturday August 02 13:01:21 2003
Re: Brian's Post - Actresses
Brian R wrote:

> Well, I got worn out after doing all the ones with
> semicolons instead of commas :)

Okay, the semicolons are all gone now, plus "several" & "multiple", etc.

There was just one thing came across when editing out semicolons.
Puppet Miss Piggy was the voice of two fellas. (Richard Hunt & Frank Oz)
Decided to take the name out and relate puppet in the description.

I know sounds odd the pig had man's voice, but appears so does Tickling Elmo, if you can believe that too?
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Saturday August 02 13:08:48 2003
Re: Editors
Brian R wrote:

> There are quite a few with ? after the name, those will
> need to be resolved one way or the other, either
> confirmed or changed to Unknown or something.

Already started into it, Unknown left in Actress and whom figure it may be moved to bottom of Description
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Saturday August 02 13:16:37 2003
Re: The name is the thing
Brian R wrote:

> Part of the problem is that she changed her name
> midstream, but from looking at the IMDB it would seem
> that Wagner is her official name now.

Just off-hand,
want to handle the same as wife of one of the Bure brothers?
(One that just went to St Louis for playoffs, Valerie or whatever?)

Sure I went through and changed all her's to (whatever?)- Bure as per lead IMDB name?
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Saturday August 02 13:23:52 2003
Re: The name is the thing
Jay L wrote:

> Just off-hand,
> want to handle the same as wife of one of the Bure
> brothers?

Here, looked it up. Candace Cameron Bure
Is one married to the Blues' Bure brother.

Anyway, take back suggestion. Figure not a good example as appears she was Candace Cameron and just added the Bure.
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Saturday August 02 14:15:18 2003
Re: The name is the thing
Brian R wrote:
>
> I'm not sure what's best, probably every entry:
>
> Kristina Wagner aka Kristina Malandro

Thoughts?
>

If "Kristina Malandro Wagner" had some caché at some point ... such as "Farrah Fawcett-Majors" ... I'd go with "Kristina Malandro aka Kristina Malandro Wagner aka Kristina Wagner", if that was the chronological progression.

BTW, did you miss my questions and comments from Wednesday on handling the animated entries?
Biff
Saturday August 02 19:09:26 2003
Re: The name is the thing
Biff wrote:

I'd go with "Kristina
> Malandro aka Kristina Malandro Wagner aka Kristina
> Wagner", if that was the chronological progression.

We need only the latter two. Everyone who enters "Kristina Malandro" into the search field also gets all the entries with "Kristina Malandro Wagner".

Peter de K
Saturday August 02 19:19:28 2003
More names
I have found quite a few actresses who have been credited under various names, eg
Nicolette Sheridan (sometimes credited as Nicollette Sheridan)
according to the IMDb. We have both versions in Brian's Db.

Do we change all these into
"Nicolette Sheridan aka Nicollette Sheridan"?
Peter de K
Saturday August 02 19:59:44 2003
Re: The name is the thing
Peter de K wrote:

> We need only the latter two. Everyone who enters
> "Kristina Malandro" into the search field also
> gets all the entries with "Kristina Malandro Wagner".

Well, that's true for now, but one of the enhancements
I'm contemplating is to have actual First and Last
name fields to search in. Figure it will make things
easier for people to find what they are looking for.
Maybe not though, willing to take input on that.

We'll probably need to get all legit aliases at some
point. Ms. Wagner is just one I happened to notice
that made me go, "hmmmm, what to do here?"

Having them either in the AKA form or (as XXX) helps me
because the tool is set up to do those already. Whether
to do anything with them now is up to the editors, the
less cleanup I have to do means more time I can devote
to the code, but of course this is all volunteer.


Brian R
Saturday August 02 20:05:29 2003
Re: The name is the thing
Biff wrote:

> BTW, did you miss my questions and comments from
> Wednesday on handling the animated entries?

I thought I'd pretty well answered them. Please repost
anything I didn't cover.



Brian R
Saturday August 02 20:51:26 2003
Re: The name is the thing
Peter de K wrote:

> Biff wrote:
>
> I'd go with "Kristina
> > Malandro aka Kristina Malandro Wagner aka Kristina
> > Wagner", if that was the chronological
> progression.
>
> We need only the latter two. Everyone who enters
> "Kristina Malandro" into the search field also
> gets all the entries with "Kristina Malandro Wagner".
>

Well, my thought was that if she had any notoreity as KMW, some folks fond of typing might search on that, and they would come up empty, right?
Biff
Saturday August 02 21:03:40 2003
Re: Editors: Actresses and stuff
Biff wrote:
>
> > > And how will that field be incorporated? Will
> > animated
> > > scenes forego the Actress field and simply
> display
> > > "Voice: Jane Doe"?
> >
> > No, it will be an additional data point.

***I was curious at to how will it actually look on the page ... if not the above, how will it be displayed?***

>
> > > Are you saying you want animated entries to be
>
> > labeled as
> > > such in the description ... in addition to the
>
> > presence
> > > of the Voice field, which would indicate that
> they
> > are?
> >
> > Puppets, CGI, cartoons, all voice. But again, I
> don't
> > want you changing anything. This all FYI for
> upcoming
> > changes, a chance for your input now.
> >
>

***Is that accomplishable technologically ... or will that info have to be input manually?***

> Dunno about
> > DEATHMATCH,
> > > which is in Claymation ... or the puppet
> entries,
> > for
> > > that matter. I think they're sort of a breed
> apart.
> >
> >
> > > What do you think?
> >
> > Should be part of the Description. If it's
> marionettes,
> > claymation, animated, etc. that should be
> reflected.
> >
> > The other possibility is to expand the Media types.
> >
>
> I think that might be the best solution ... to add an
> "Animated TV series", "Animated
> Movie" and possibly an "Animated Other"
> category.
>

As puppets and Claymation comprise only a handful of entries, I suppose it makes sense to lump them with drawn and CGIed scenes in the generic "animated" category ... but perhaps an instruction should be added asking entry authors to differentiate. I don't know how much good that would do ... I'm just thinking aloud here.
.............

For this last part I was just spitballing and seeking feedback.
Biff

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