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| Friday August 25 00:13:16 2017 Re: [1986] Run For Your Life |
| Peter de K wrote: > Now seems to be the time for me to put in a good word for > one of my favourites, the blindfold. Everything else it > seems has been covered. > bonddesc_blindfold ? Seconded! I could have sworn this was in an earlier list. One more that a scene just now reminded me of: peril_suffocation (i.e. a bag over the head, tape over nose and mouth, etc.) |
| Raffish |
| Friday August 25 01:10:53 2017 Many keywords |
| Figured I'd pass this along, since it'll probably turn out to be useful at some point. It's an excerpted, tab-delimited version of the database from my old site, including mappings from roughly 3000 of Brian's DB IDs to my own keywords. Once the new tags are finalized, I'd be happy to write a script to make as many remappings as possible. Then we'd just have to ask the Engineer nicely to help us integrate those tags into the ones that are already there. |
| Raffish |
| https://drive.google.com/open?id=19J96SXXRsl6qZaLw2F49CyclmQS1mTPsPK_JPpLqqnk |
| Friday August 25 02:07:42 2017 Tags |
| very good to me. Just one item more: bonddesc_kneestogether (unfortunately bonddesc_toetied is useless in mainstream) |
| Ayador |
| Friday August 25 07:27:33 2017 Re: Many keywords |
| Working on that script to check Brian's DB and my (old) DB against the official tag list. The first stage found a bunch of typos, which I've fixed. It also pointed out the following: Missing mapping for 819: "multiple_damsel" Missing mapping for 14727: "multiple_damsel" Missing mapping for 22499: "multiple_damsel" Missing mapping for 22516: "multiple_damsel" Missing mapping for 22552: "multiple_damsel" Missing mapping for 3079: "gagtype_panty(?)" Missing mapping for 4925: "gagtype_panty(?)" Missing mapping for 10551: "gagtype_stuffing(?)" Missing mapping for 12183: "mother/daughter(?)" Missing mapping for 16114: "gagtype_stuffing(?)" Missing mapping for 18429: "gagtype_panty(?)" Missing mapping for 18690: "gagtype_panty(?)" Missing mapping for 18691: "gagtype_panty(?)" Missing mapping for 21078: "gagtype_ball(?)" Missing mapping for 21135: "gagtype_stuffing(?)" Not sure what we want to do with these. Personally, I think there's value in multiple_damsel, as long as we define it narrowly as "in the same room at the same time." As for the "(?)", maybe we could either verify or kill them? |
| Raffish |
| Friday August 25 08:32:39 2017 Ankles together keyword |
| I would like "ankles tied together" added as a keyword. Those are the only scenes that I'm interested in. Thanks for your consideration. |
| Another Dave |
| Friday August 25 08:59:57 2017 Tag Additions |
| I've added the suggestions to the list of tags (bonddesc_blindfold, peril_suffocation, bonddesc_anklestogether). Just for clarification, I seem to remember that we thought blindfold wasn't necessary, since it was usually specified in the text description, and I think that the bonddesc_feettogether was meant to cover the ankles together situation. In the case of blindfolds, it doesn't hurt to have the redundancy, and its possible to have the feet actually tied when the ankles aren't, so.... That brings our current list to: Database Tag Definitions: Standalone tags: F/F BBW mother/daughter outfit_ outfit_swimwear outfit_underwear outfit_theft outfit_uniform outfit_nudity outfit_officewear outfit_shorts outfit_skirt outfit_jeans outfit_robe outfit_fetish footwear_ footwear_bare footwear_socks footwear_nylons footwear_heels footwear_boots carry_ carry_OTS carry_cradle gagtype_ gagtype_panty (as a standalone stuff gag, or as packing) gagtype_stuffing (any packing with a gag over it; so it can accompany other types) gagtype_wadding** for a standalone stuffed gag gagtype_panty) gagtype_wraparound gagtype_bit gagtype_harness gagtype_faux gagtype_ball gagtype_Hannibal gagtype_cleave gagtype_bandit gagtype_OTM gagtype_tape gagtype_hand bonddesc_ bonddesc_rope bonddesc_tape bonddesc_chains bonddesc_handcuffs bonddesc_cableties bonddesc_straps bonddesc_wire bonddesc_stocks bonddesc_bed bonddesc_chair bonddesc_post bonddesc_table bonddesc_rack bonddesc_handsbehind bonddesc_handsinfront bonddesc_handsatsides bonddesc_handsspread (incl. hands to chair arms and upper-only spreadeagles) bonddesc_handstogetherAOH bonddesc_chestropes bonddesc_anklestogether bonddesc_feettogether bonddesc_kneestogether bonddesc_feetspread (incl. feet to chair legs and lower-only spreadeagles) bonddesc_hogtie bonddesc_strappado bonddesc_spreadeagle bonddesc_suspension (replaces standalone "suspension" tag) bonddesc_mummy (replaces standalone “mummification” tag) bonddesc_selfbondage (replaces standalone “self-bondage” tag) bonddesc_blindfold peril_ peril_fire peril_gas peril_drowning peril_hanging peril_bomb peril_gun peril_piercing peril_suffocation KO_ KO_blow KO_chloroform KO_choking KO_dart KO_drink KO_drowning KO_gas KO_handgag KO_injection KO_magic KO_nerve pinch KO_pills KO_shock KO_smoke KO_spray KO_suffocation KO_taser Ending_ ending_escape ending_release ending_rescue ending_death ******************************************* |
| Gagster |
| Friday August 25 09:06:13 2017 Re: Many keywords |
| Raffish wrote: > Working on that script to check Brian's DB and my (old) > DB against the official tag list. The first stage found a > bunch of typos, which I've fixed. It also pointed out the > following: > Missing mapping for 819: "multiple_damsel" > Missing mapping for 14727: "multiple_damsel" > Missing mapping for 22499: "multiple_damsel" > Missing mapping for 22516: "multiple_damsel" > Missing mapping for 22552: "multiple_damsel" > Missing mapping for 3079: "gagtype_panty(?)" > Missing mapping for 4925: "gagtype_panty(?)" > Missing mapping for 10551: > "gagtype_stuffing(?)" > Missing mapping for 12183: "mother/daughter(?)" > Missing mapping for 16114: > "gagtype_stuffing(?)" > Missing mapping for 18429: "gagtype_panty(?)" > Missing mapping for 18690: "gagtype_panty(?)" > Missing mapping for 18691: "gagtype_panty(?)" > Missing mapping for 21078: "gagtype_ball(?)" > Missing mapping for 21135: > "gagtype_stuffing(?)" > Not sure what we want to do with these. Personally, I > think there's value in multiple_damsel, as long as we > define it narrowly as "in the same room at the same time." As for the "(?)", maybe we could either verify or kill them? I'm not sure what the "missing mapping" error signifies. Could they be descriptions you pulled of entries which have since been deleted? If we can't resolve the error, we can still use the rest of your massive list to help retrofit the database. Asof this morning, we have 1827 entries with tags. Your list would help increase this dramatically. The only concern that I can see are the chance of duplicating tags for the 1827 which are already done, but they could always be cleaned up later. |
| Gagster |
| Friday August 25 09:43:04 2017 Skirts tag |
| Forgot to reply to the question about outfit_dress... I'd prefer to just keep the single outfit_skirt, rather than distinguish between skirts and dresses. As you said, its sometimes hard to tell which is being worn, and generally speaking, the curiosity concerns the legs end of the garment, not the top. |
| Gagster |
| Friday August 25 12:13:30 2017 Re: Tag Additions |
| Gagster wrote: >bonddesc_anklestogether >bonddesc_feettogether No, please no...they're just too close, literally. It'll end in ruin. I want to help Another Dave out if it's an important distinction for him, but I'd argue that this is one of the rare cases where it should really be left to the entry text, rather than asking folks to choose between one or the other when adding entries, then search on both. Lest I be accused of hypocrisy, I'll propose a few reductions to KO_, whose original expansion was largely my doing: - "KO_nerve pinch" should either be "KO_nerve_pinch" or better yet just deleted and left to the entry text. There's only one in my DB, so it's pretty darn esoteric. - "KO_smoke": fold into "KO_gas". Again, only one in my DB. - "KO_shock" vs. "KO_taser": so close. Most scenes these days will involve tasers, but "KO_shock" could cover both. > I'm not sure what the "missing mapping" error signifies. Could they > be descriptions you pulled of entries which have since been > deleted? I pulled the version of the DB that the script is referencing last night. Sorry if I wasn't clear: that warning just means that it found a tag that it doesn't know what to do with because I'm not sure either. For multiple_damsels, we just need a thumbs-up or thumbs-down. I think it could be valuable if narrowly defined, as I mentioned, but we should kill it from those 5 entries if it doesn't end up on the list. For the "(?)", we don't see question marks in any other tagging system that I know of. I think we should just ask folks to add the tag if they're reasonably confident about it, and discuss any uncertainties in the entry text. > The only concern that I can see are the chance of duplicating tags > for the 1827 which are already done, but they could always be > cleaned up later. Working on it. What I propose to provide within the next day or three is a single list that merges both DBs and doesn't duplicate any tags. The script that generates that list can be run at any time, and we'd just need to make sure that any late-breaking additions to Brian's DB aren't overwritten whenever that list is integrated. Taking a snapshot of the DB *just* before the integration happens would do the trick. (That would take care of the two cases above with whatever solution we decide on, BTW, so no need to edit those entries manually.) > I'd prefer to just keep the single outfit_skirt, rather than distinguish > between skirts and dresses. Cool, I'll map my "dress" tag to outfit_skirt. We should just make sure it's documented in the submission notes that the same tag should be used for both. |
| Raffish |
| Friday August 25 15:08:57 2017 Re: Tag Additions |
| Okay...bunch of annoying questions that my script is raising about how I should map my old tags to the new ones, plus a few tagging suggestions and other things that we might want to clarify in the submission notes. Please forgive me and ignore any territory that's already been covered. My DB has... * 307 "carrying" entries that aren't helpfully divided on my end between "carrying_cradle" and "carrying_OTS". Any ideas? I realize that a generic "carrying" tag probably isn't what we want, but that's a lot to drop on the floor. * 200+ entries for "cloth bondage" in which damsels are tied with cloth strips. I don't see any other tag on the list to handle them, so I propose "bonddesc_cloth". * 72 entries for "hands spread at sides", which I tended to use when damsels are bound to tables etc. Should this be mapped to "bonddesc_handsatsides" or "bonddesc_handsspread"? I'm guessing the latter but wouldn't mind a sanity check. * 88 entries for "leather cuffs". Should this be "bonddesc_handcuffs", "bonddesc_straps", or its own tag? * Similarly, 114 entries for "manacles". Are these "bonddesc_chains" or "bonddesc_handcuffs"? Probably the former, but since they're a hybrid of sorts and I originally made the distinction...sanity check. * 9 entries for "straitjacket", which isn't that many, but I propose "bonddesc_straitjacket" because it's clearly its own thing. * 55 entries for "sexual content" (which I didn't divide between consensual and non-consensual). Where did we end up with this? I know it's touchy, but "ending_death" is arguably at least as touchy as a search term, and we're sticking with that. * 6 entries for "tentacle bondage" and 2 for "tentacle gag". Also its own thing, and PROBABLY not worth dedicated tags...though, think of the Japanese. |
| Raffish |
| Friday August 25 15:37:57 2017 Tag Proposals |
| Starting clean, since its getting hard to follow the quoted posts: 1) Let's go with bonddesc_anklestogether, rather than bonddesc_feettogether. I think it's a more accurate description, and I can changes any existing entries which have the "feettogether" tag. 2) "Nerve pinch" without the underscore was a typo, but killing it altogether is fine with me. It shouldn't be used too often unless the new Star Trek series has Vulcans that are into B&D. 3) KO_smoke into KO_gas sounds fine, but let's keep shock and taser separate. The taser attack is considerable different than something like an electric fence. 4) multiple_damsel is one of Sam's tags, so I'll let him comment on how he would like to see it defined. 5) For the "carrying" entries, if you can send me a list I might be able to identify at least some of them. For the ones that remain unknown, we can use carry_unknown temporarily. 6) The cloth bondage and straitjacket (I can't believe Sam and I never brought that up) gave me an idea- just define a new prefix. We can go with "restraint_" and then list the material. The ones that I have so far: rope metal handcuffs straitjacket tape cloth leathercuffs belts tentacles(*) takes care of another of your questions! These would replace any of the bonddesc tags which specify material. 7) For the bondage position on the table, I tend to think of hands spread at sides as it sounds - with the wrists pulled away from the torso. Handsatsides would be with the arms parallel to the torso and held close. 8) Sexual Content is touchy, and I think I'll ask the moderator to give his opinion here. The entry text can describe whatever action is taking place, but defining a tag like "sex_bj" may cause some unintended legal issues. |
| Gagster |
| gagster69@hotmail.com |
| Friday August 25 20:03:04 2017 Re: Tag Proposals |
| I'm OK with ditching "sexual_content", as the description can handle it better. I'd like "multiple_damsel" to stay, but as with mother/daughter it should only encompass scenes where specifically 2 or more B&G damsels are in the same room together, even if one is taken away immediately. "bonddesc_anklestogether" is good. "restraint_" is good, but I'd prefer a suffix of "_zipties" instead of "_cableties". |
| Sam |
| Friday August 25 20:05:10 2017 Re: Tag Proposals |
| ^ That should've read "2 or more damsels, restrained and/or gagged". The requirement is that both have to be restrained, or at least implied. |
| Sam |
| Friday August 25 22:16:38 2017 Re: Tag Proposals |
| Cool, I think I have all of these changes integrated into my script. I'm currently doing typo triage on the FBT spreadsheet, which is more comprehensive than the file I posted earlier but why the hell did I ever let anyone but me edit the damn thing, but I should have some sample output ready very soon. Before I forget, restraint_wire is one more for the new prefix. I'd also like to suggest bonddesc_hood, since it seems to come up a fair amount. If we're going with bonddesc_anklestogether, should it be bonddesc_anklesspread as well? Finally, here's the list of IDs for undifferentiated carrying scenes that Gagster requested. I'll tag them as carrying_unknown for now. |
| Raffish |
| https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m16rtnNyWb0BhuXIvoAYdxtfkGmAO6yObWmeDCA6Mu4/edit |
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