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Sunday July 01 23:08:41 2018
Re: [23433] Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Gagster wrote:

> CRl wrote:
> > Attempted murder b sufocation should not really
> count as
> > a . This does not belong her.
> I agree. The entry has been deleted.

I would like to make an argument for including this scene in the database.

There are multiple entries in the database where a handgag was the only hint of bondage. (See entry 23498: The Perfect Marriage (2006) as just one recent example.) The damsel in this episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has her mouth, nose, and eyes covered by multiple layers of cloth and stuffing (the pillow, which should qualify as gagtype_misc), she is "mmmph"-ing vigorously under the pillow, she is struggling as best she can---all evidence of a damsel of distress. Why should an attempted smothering be treated differently than being KO'd by chloroform or being handgagged, for which we have tags, and which often includes the exact same elements as listed above (mouth covered, "mmmph"-ing, and struggling)?
rkh13scn
Sunday July 01 23:41:00 2018
Re: [23433] Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
rkh13scn wrote:

> Gagster wrote:
> > CRl wrote:
> > > Attempted murder b sufocation should not really
>
> > count as
> > > a . This does not belong her.
> > I agree. The entry has been deleted.
> I would like to make an argument for including this scene
> in the database.
> There are multiple entries in the database where a
> handgag was the only hint of bondage. (See entry 23498:
> The Perfect Marriage (2006) as just one recent example.)
> The damsel in this episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has
> her mouth, nose, and eyes covered by multiple layers of
> cloth and stuffing (the pillow, which should qualify as
> gagtype_misc), she is "mmmph"-ing vigorously
> under the pillow, she is struggling as best she can---all
> evidence of a damsel of distress. Why should an attempted
> smothering be treated differently than being KO'd by
> chloroform or being handgagged, for which we have tags,
> and which often includes the exact same elements as
> listed above (mouth covered, "mmmph"-ing, and struggling)?

There are a couple of things about the entry which I think justify the deletion. Personally, I don't consider handgags to be bondage, and I rarely bother mentioning scenes that consist only of handgags or chloroform. I also very rarely add DB entries for them.

However, enough other people disagree, and actually seem to enjoy them. Handgags and chloro scenes are different from being suffocated by a pillow in that the face, and especially the eyes, are visible during the scene.

The KO tags that you mention are never used by themselves. They are only used as an indication as to how the actress was captured. There is not a single entry where the only action is that a damsel is knocked out.

In the case of this particular scene, the actress is attacked while laying in bed, is totally obscured during the attack and is never placed in any kind of restraint.

That being said, I'll invite Brian and the other editors to chime in and offer their opinions.
Gagster

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